Dbol/Deca/TestE ... Pins?

  1. Dbol/Deca/TestE ... Pins?


    Ok so i posted a while back about this stack, got the doses straight and im ready to start


    dbol to 40mg(2weeks then might bump up, total of 4 weeks)
    test at 500/12wk (split in 2 pins)
    deca at 400/12wk (split in 2 pins)

    My question would be, when and where to pin nd take pills ... Can u mix TestE nd Deca in the same syringe nd then pin?

    Here is my plan
    Dbol 20mg am, 20 mg before workout (if i bump add more to pre)
    TestE/Deca(If i can mix) Monday and Friday in am
    If not
    TestE Monday nd Thursday
    Deca Tuesday nd Friday

    I only pin in glutes, done leg and couldnt walk, arm i dont dare unless somebody else does it (my chest is kinda big so hard to reach that 90degree)

    Bonus: Creatine? Anybody? Lol i never taken but got a ****load sitting around, i read how u do the load up for a week at 25g a day and then 5g a day to maintain ... Any thoughts?

    Ill be taking as supplement

    100% Whey (pre and post)
    100% Casein before bed
    Multivitamins
    Liver Protect

    As work out is 3 days heavy lifting, lot of Squats, Bench, Deadlifts, Presses, etc etc similars to the MadCow 5x5
    3 days HIIT nd abs(weighted)

    And diet
    semi,high carb on lifting days 3,500 cals
    Medium on cardio and abs 3,000 cals
    High protein

    My stats 5'11 195lbs 10% BF 25 years old
    Been lifting for about 6 years
    And im on my 3 cycle ... So yeah that pretty much should wrap it up

    I will start a clean thread with pics and updates every week or 2 so stay posted if u wanna see how it goes


  2. PCT?
    Cycle Support?

    Yes you can mix the two in one syringe, you just can't push back the second one once you've drawn it up. So I'd personally draw the deca up first and then the test (because personally I'd be less worried about extra test than extra deca).

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  3. I would stop deca 2 weeks before test or make test 2 weeks longer. I myself would save creatine for pct but it's up to u.
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  4. if both are oil baed, its fine to take in same syringe

    dose all dbol pre w/o IME its better

    take creatine on and off

    if it hurts, try pinning less in more spots. like 2 pins when you do it smaller amounts
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    PCT?
    Cycle Support?

    Yes you can mix the two in one syringe, you just can't push back the second one once you've drawn it up. So I'd personally draw the deca up first and then the test (because personally I'd be less worried about extra test than extra deca).

    ManBeast

    PCT just Nolva, has worked for me I'm the past ... Why fix it if it ain't broken ... 40/40/20/20

    HCG on hand for shrinkage nd trying to get Prami in case of prolactin

  6. Quote Originally Posted by dannyn2007 View Post
    I would stop deca 2 weeks before test or make test 2 weeks longer. I myself would save creatine for pct but it's up to u.
    Can u explain why? Thanks

  7. Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    if both are oil baed, its fine to take in same syringe

    dose all dbol pre w/o IME its better

    take creatine on and off

    if it hurts, try pinning less in more spots. like 2 pins when you do it smaller amounts
    Ok I'll prob just take all the dbol pre workout then ... Thanks

  8. Deca has a longer ester and will stay in your system longer than the test.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  9. Thanks manbeast for answering for me. By the way, don't run nolva for pct. Deca is 19nor and it might make prolactin sides worst. Stick with clomid

  10. Yeah, i missed that part, clomid is much better for 19nor compounds.

    and YW man

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  11. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    Yeah, i missed that part, clomid is much better for 19nor compounds.

    and YW man

    ManBeast
    Ok ill do some more researxh in that aspect, wasnt so concerned with PCT thus far, i mean i had it planned but never read anything on 19nor compounds, so ill read into it tonight maybe order tomorrow ... Have u guys runed this cycle already?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Vote4pedro View Post
    Ok ill do some more researxh in that aspect, wasnt so concerned with PCT thus far, i mean i had it planned but never read anything on 19nor compounds, so ill read into it tonight maybe order tomorrow ... Have u guys runed this cycle already?
    ive done tren e /test e dbol.

    use hcg on this cycle for sure tho

    clomi 50x4 weeks and you'll be fine. my nips get a little weird looking / puffy no matter how much i dose ancillaries or the drugs. it clears within a week of discontinued use, so don't be worried
    Serious Nutrition Solutions

  13. I'm actually almost done with
    Superdrol kickstart 1-4week
    Test e- 500mg 1-14week
    Deca- 300mg 1-12week
    Caber 1mg a week cause nipples kinda feel like it's flaring.
    Ai eod
    Clomid
    Hcg towards end of cycle
    Cycle assist and other support supps

    Hate typing on iPhone, but u got the idea

  14. I ran test-e, tren, and d-bol myself, used hcg and clomid as part of my cycle support and PCT.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  15. Mixing in syringe is fine.
    Take injectables every 4 days.
    Take tabs all at once.
    HCG during if needed.
    Nolv/Clomid as PCT.
    Gettin' Gear, Doin Work and Spittin' Knowledge!
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  16. Ok so if I'm gonna use HCG while on cycle would I do 5,000 iu a week? But what weeks and how often then? And how many weeks after cycles after last pin before I start Clomid if I was to do that? I was think taking 2 weeks off and then start the Nolva

  17. There are several different aproaches to using HCG. Assuming you stop the deca 2 weeks before you stop the test (i'd run deca for 12 weeks, test for 14), you would start the clomid at the start of week 17.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  18. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    There are several different aproaches to using HCG. Assuming you stop the deca 2 weeks before you stop the test (i'd run deca for 12 weeks, test for 14), you would start the clomid at the start of week 17.

    ManBeast
    Ok yeah, that's kind of what I had in mind but with Nolva, but after doing some research I am about to order the Clomid here soon ... So 50g everyday for 4 weeks sounds like what I'll do ... HCG is on hand but it seems un necessary unless effects of shrinkage but u guys keep stating it towards the end of cycle and I don't see why unless u see something's wrong ...

  19. HCG is used throughout the cycle up to right before pct starts. So for you I'd use it at say.... weeks 4, 8, 12, and 16. For the clomid you are better off with a dosing of something like 150/150/100/100/50/50 for a longer cycle like the one you are running IMHO.

    If you are running both nolva and clomid I'd do something like:
    nolva: 40/40/20/20/10/10
    clomid: 50/50/50/25/25/25

    You need to stay on/use a liver support during pct with nolva as well.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    HCG is used throughout the cycle up to right before pct starts. So for you I'd use it at say.... weeks 4, 8, 12, and 16. For the clomid you are better off with a dosing of something like 150/150/100/100/50/50 for a longer cycle like the one you are running IMHO.

    If you are running both nolva and clomid I'd do something like:
    nolva: 40/40/20/20/10/10
    clomid: 50/50/50/25/25/25

    You need to stay on/use a liver support during pct with nolva as well.

    ManBeast
    Mmmhhhhh I'm prob gonna do the Nolva/Clomid

    What doses of HCG on those weeks

    BTW thanks for sharing all this knowledge bro, good looking out

  21. 150mgs of clomi? lol

    pct is asenine choose one or the other. I dont see the reason to run them both at the full dose that makes no sense. more isnt always better. + youre gonna use HCG so whats the big worry?
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