Ultradrol, Trenazone - Need a lot of advice. I want to do this right.
12-18-2011 04:41 AM
Best advice so far. Ok - so here's the plan. In the past few weeks, I've been doing just that. I've done a lot of research, and I think I have waaay too much Ultradrol.
Originally Posted by MTAC
I started taking cycle assist last week to prep. I'll continue taking throughout the cycle, then switch to PCT assist for post-cycle support - it's what I have, so I'll use it.
I'll keep at my routine, clean, for a few more weeks. I plan on starting the PHs around the first of the year.
I'm thinking I got too much Ultradrol. After reading about it, if I use it at all, it will be during the last 2 weeks or so of my cycle. That being said, I think Trenazone is more for me. My goal is to lean out. I need to run, and too much Ultradrol will likely give me horrible calf pumps.
Prior to taking M-drol, I ran about 10 miles a week - nothing crazy, but it averaged out to 2 miles daily (on a 5-day run schedule). After week 2-3 on M-drol, without fail - I'd hit 4/10 of a mile, and start to lock up. I don't want that again, so I'll minimize the Ultradrol.
That being said, I'll order more Trenazone. Just one more bottle (15 day supply @ 150 ml a day).
I'll run the Trenazone for 4 weeks.
- Option A: Trenazone solo 4 weeks @ 75-150, 150, 150, 150
If I feel I need the Ultradrol, I MIGHT start at week 2. No more than 8mg a day, though. I'm 230, so 12mg might be more suitable - but I'm still only going to run 8mg.
- Option 2: Trenazone 4 weeks @ 75-150, 150, 150, 150; Ultradrol @ 0, 0, 8, 8
If I'm liking the progression at week 2, I'll hold off on the Ultradrol until week 4, then run it for only 2 weeks @ 8mg.
- Option D: (see what I did there?) Trenazone @ 75-150, 150, 150, 150, 0, 0; Ultradrol @ 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 8
If I feel I've hit my goal by week 4 with only Trenazone, then I won't do Ultradrol at all.
- Option Omega: Trenazone @ 75-150, 150, 150, 150
I need a bit of guidance on this. When I did other PCTs, I started PCT Assist and Nolvadex at week 6, the final week on-cycle with the PHs. Is that what's generally done now, or should I start only after stopping the PHs?
Also, I need to know where I can buy an appropriate SERM online. I have a US address over here in Japan (military), but everything is inspected rigorously. I bought the PCT Assist from one company, and the Ultradrol / Trenazone from another. Packages came on different days - both were torn open and inspected by the Military and Japanese customs (They even left a note...). Thankfully, they're legal (or grey-area - whatever.) So this is an issue for me.
So my questions are as follows:
- Where can I buy Nolva / Clomid / Torem online? Preferably somewhere that also sells Trenazone because I still need another bottle. What dose / when should I take it?
- Is Nolva / Clomid / Torem legal? Will I get a nice visit from CID if someone ships it to me?
12-19-2011 12:36 AM
Well, I've looked around this site, and I haven't seen any vendors that sell nolva. Any suggestions?
Also, I could use some feedback on my previous questions; specifically, a plan for PCT.
I'd imagine that promoting a non-sponsored site is against forum rules. So - are there any sponsored sites that sell this stuff?
12-19-2011 01:30 AM
With regards to your PCT, SERMs are available and legal by prescription only. If they're searching all of your packages, you will not be able to get them without a prescription. The alternative is research chemical SERM but this will not make it through the search either. I would suggest asking the people here about a legal PCT alternative that does not use a SERM. I believe there was a thread about this topic recently that you could find.
Originally Posted by RogueJD
12-19-2011 05:17 AM
im deployed to afghanistan right now and in our px they just started selling small supplements and little jugs of random **** and like more than half of it is muscle tech i laugh to myself everytime i see people with it in their hands t the register lol
Originally Posted by halfhuman
12-19-2011 05:56 AM
do yourself a favor and buy clomid and nolva in tablet form from a UGL. Those research chems are usually in liquid form which is harder to figure out the dose and tastes nasty
12-19-2011 06:17 AM
ohh man..I could imagine they probably sell it higher than what the retail value is and at that the normal price is way to high to begin with
Originally Posted by Masciaman
12-20-2011 01:54 AM
UGL? Please explain. - And thanks for the tip. (Google didn't provide accurate results for UGL.)
Originally Posted by heckler7
I'm seeing stuff that talks about UGL Nolvadex - but no definition about the variance between that and "real" nolvadex
Last edited by RogueJD; 12-20-2011 at 02:03 AM.
Reason: eidted out what I think was a brand name - I'm sure if I kept it, it would be against the rules.
12-20-2011 02:16 AM
Disregard. Figured it out. UGL = Underground Labs. Yea, that's a big "negative."
Well, I'm just not gonna do the cycle, it seems. Potentially wasted money on all these PHs.
I do have one last option - I'm in Japan - maybe the pharmacies here are self-serve - you know; walk in, tell 'em what you want, get it without a script. I'll have to ask some of my JP buddies here. Wish me luck!
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