What else do i need for my cycle of epistane?Please help!?
- 11-22-2011, 07:10 PM
- 11-22-2011, 10:01 PM
11-22-2011, 10:10 PM
I second that u need a SERM I'm about to run epi also. I would go with cycle assist or the cycle support. Preload for like two weeks dose at 30mg a day to start at least through first or second week then if u can bump up to 40mg a day do a 5 to 6 week cycle no longer that 6 weeks. Pct should consist of daa and nolva or clomid also a AI I prefer erase cause its not suppresive like ATD. Bring erase in week 3 of the pct and start at 3 caps and taper down from there. That's the basics, what's your stats how long u been lifting is this your first cycle?Originally Posted by CJNator
11-23-2011, 03:33 AM
Plus, most of these compounds act as 5a-reductase inhibitors (not sure about the 3,5-diene) which will reduce DHT and not help PCT either.
11-23-2011, 07:12 AM
11-23-2011, 01:48 PM
11-23-2011, 02:24 PM
11-23-2011, 04:14 PM
The thing about the ais is that they do work. They regulate estrogen. His arguement is that they don't work cuz of libido? If anything I'd say that means they r working cuz aren't we taking the ai to drop estrogen?
11-23-2011, 04:20 PM
I totally agree with u cuz I've taken 4 caps of revolution black b4 which has the same active ingredient as ERASE. So I took the equivalent of 8 caps of ERASE and holy sh*t I had the dryest joints ever and my libido tanked which is a clear sign of very low estogen.Originally Posted by mugen112
11-23-2011, 08:47 PM
11-23-2011, 09:14 PM
Honestly, id rather use nothing at all than a aromatase inhibitor or SERM for PCT.
For PCT Id run sodium-d-aspartate, trace minerals, ginseng, coconut MTC's, phospholipids, sun exposure, etc. Make sure to keep leptin down with a high fiber/moderate protein/frequent meal program.
11-23-2011, 09:18 PM
11-23-2011, 11:05 PM
It's kinda funny I hate to say it but I've gone the natural route (before I knew really what I was doing) I've used serms and I've used AI's and hounustly if your shut down your shut down. It takes about two weeks to bounce back wieather or not u use a SERM just a natural test booster or an AI. Or even a combination of all of those. That said I still use serms because it gives me peace of mind and yes I know you can get gyno with or without a SERM or any AI but still makes me feel like I do bounce back a little better. I've lost sex drive with or without a SERM or AI when u stop any cycle your gonna loose sex drive no matter what u take because of the test levels being so low. All valid points, I've used them all but hands down I go SERM every time.Originally Posted by Primordial Perf
11-24-2011, 02:22 AM
use a SERM for pct. pre load milk thistle for 2 weeks and run through the cycle. since epi is a METHYL hormone.
(it is still a hormone a should be treated like one)
11-24-2011, 02:35 AM
11-24-2011, 03:28 AM
11-24-2011, 01:29 PM
11-24-2011, 01:36 PM
11-24-2011, 03:49 PM
Primordial is against using SERMs, but honestly, you will keep more of your gains using one for this cycle.
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11-24-2011, 04:16 PM
11-24-2011, 05:11 PM
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