Cycle support or Organ Sheild
Pct Revlution black
You'll need a SERM bro, clomid or nolva.
I second that u need a SERM I'm about to run epi also. I would go with cycle assist or the cycle support. Preload for like two weeks dose at 30mg a day to start at least through first or second week then if u can bump up to 40mg a day do a 5 to 6 week cycle no longer that 6 weeks. Pct should consist of daa and nolva or clomid also a AI I prefer erase cause its not suppresive like ATD. Bring erase in week 3 of the pct and start at 3 caps and taper down from there. That's the basics, what's your stats how long u been lifting is this your first cycle?Originally Posted by CJNator
Plus, most of these compounds act as 5a-reductase inhibitors (not sure about the 3,5-diene) which will reduce DHT and not help PCT either.
Eric, how about aromasin?
Does PCT revo contain DAA? If so, id keep it on board since youve already purchased it.
The thing about the ais is that they do work. They regulate estrogen. His arguement is that they don't work cuz of libido? If anything I'd say that means they r working cuz aren't we taking the ai to drop estrogen?
I totally agree with u cuz I've taken 4 caps of revolution black b4 which has the same active ingredient as ERASE. So I took the equivalent of 8 caps of ERASE and holy sh*t I had the dryest joints ever and my libido tanked which is a clear sign of very low estogen.Originally Posted by mugen112
Honestly, id rather use nothing at all than a aromatase inhibitor or SERM for PCT.
For PCT Id run sodium-d-aspartate, trace minerals, ginseng, coconut MTC's, phospholipids, sun exposure, etc. Make sure to keep leptin down with a high fiber/moderate protein/frequent meal program.
It's kinda funny I hate to say it but I've gone the natural route (before I knew really what I was doing) I've used serms and I've used AI's and hounustly if your shut down your shut down. It takes about two weeks to bounce back wieather or not u use a SERM just a natural test booster or an AI. Or even a combination of all of those. That said I still use serms because it gives me peace of mind and yes I know you can get gyno with or without a SERM or any AI but still makes me feel like I do bounce back a little better. I've lost sex drive with or without a SERM or AI when u stop any cycle your gonna loose sex drive no matter what u take because of the test levels being so low. All valid points, I've used them all but hands down I go SERM every time.Originally Posted by Primordial Perf
use a SERM for pct. pre load milk thistle for 2 weeks and run through the cycle. since epi is a METHYL hormone.
(it is still a hormone a should be treated like one)
I don't understand either cuz a dht-based hormone will only suppress estrogen but so will Epi.
Primordial is against using SERMs, but honestly, you will keep more of your gains using one for this cycle.
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