Low dose/shorty cycle Beast/Tren-TFO

[elgenyo]

I've actually got a substantial stash of this stuff since the ban and figured I'd at the very least use up an unfinished bottle of each on a short low dose cycle. I plan on 10mg of each compound. That's half the recommended dosage and 1/3 of the dosage I have done in the past with great results. The point is to test the theories discussed here:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/111610-superdrol-5mg-3-a.html

Cycle looks like 10/10/10 with all your normal support supplements...fish oil, multi-v and such with the addition of CEL cycle assist ran throughout.

PCT will be
Clomid 50/50/25/25
CEL Formestane
Sustain Alpha transdermal
DAA

I have Nolva as well.

Stats:
5'8" 180lbs 32yo ~15%+bf
Diet will be 2000c 50p/30c/20f

Looking to lean out a bit and retain more of the gains than I did with the full dose which was a lot of water weight.

Pointers before I start? Changes?

 

[supersize77]

sub'd. Looks good man. what typed of training/cardio will you use.

 

[elgenyo]

[h=2]Monday: Chest[/h]

• Flat Bench 4×8
• Incline Bench 4×8
• Decline Bench 4×8
• Pullover 4×12
• Hammer Press 3×12
• Dips 3×12

[h=2]Tuesday: Back/Traps[/h]

• Bent Over Row 4×8
• Deadlift 4×8
• Pulldowns 4×12
• Pull Ups 4×12
• Cable Row 4×12
• Shrugs 6×10

[h=2]Wednesday: Delts/Abs[/h]

• Military Press Behind The Neck 3×8
• Machine Press 4×8
• Lateral Raises 4 x 10
• Weight Plate Front Raises 4×10
• Front Raise 4×10
• Reverse Pec Deck 4×10
• Reverse Fly’s (on incline bench) 4×12
• Weighted Sit Up 4x failure
• Hanging Leg Raise- 4x failure
• Side Bends 4x failure
• Side Crunches 4x failure

[h=2]Thursday: Rest[/h]

• Recovery

[h=2]Friday: Triceps/Biceps[/h]

• Close Grip Bench Press 4×8
• Pushdown 4×8
• EZ Bar Skullcrusher 4×10
• Cable Kickback 4×12
• EZ Bar Curl 4×8
• Wide Grip Curl 4×8
• Hammer Curl 4×8(each hand)
• Concentration Curl 4×12

[h=2]Saturday: Legs/Abs[/h]

• Squats 4×12
• Squat (to bench) 4×12
• Bulgarian Squat 4×12
• Quad Extensions 4×16
• Stiff Leg Deadlift 4×12
• Leg Curls 4×16
• Glute Kickbacks 4×20
• Calf Machine Raises 4×20
• Seated Calf Raises 4×20
• Leg Press Calf Raises 4×20
• Weighted Sit up 4x failure
• Air bike 4x failure
• Side Bends 4x failure
• Barbell Twists 4x failure

[h=2]Sunday: Rest[/h]

• Recovery

Cardio is 30 post workout. Maybe HIIT if lethargy doesn't kick in.

 

[ripped_one]

27 sets for delts? 40 sets for legs?

 

[elgenyo]

Its alot I know but high reps is what my body responds to unfortunately. GVT training taught me that.

 

[oufinny]

Its alot I know but high reps is what my body responds to unfortunately. GVT training taught me that.

You ever read any of Dante's thoughts on DC training? I am curious cause the logic you are using is the same bro-logic many have agreed with for years but until people do a lower volume workout that is high intensity/heavy weight, they never really know if it is volume that is best for them. I was with you for the longest time, then I ran a round of HST and couldn't believe the results. Just started DC and the science behind it makes perfect sense, you just have remove yourself from the must do more volume mentality.

 

[elgenyo]

You ever read any of Dante's thoughts on DC training? I am curious cause the logic you are using is the same bro-logic many have agreed with for years but until people do a lower volume workout that is high intensity/heavy weight, they never really know if it is volume that is best for them. I was with you for the longest time, then I ran a round of HST and couldn't believe the results. Just started DC and the science behind it makes perfect sense, you just have remove yourself from the must do more volume mentality.

/good advice

I'll look into it before i start this.

 

[oufinny]

/good advice

I'll look into it before i start this.

If you PM me an email address I have something that you might want to read, I can send it and it is what got me interested. It is an interview with some information for you to peruse.

 

[Austinmck17]

in for this bro good luck hopefully no sides at all! kill that ****!

 

[p5sky]

good luck, def interested

 

[gymrat827]

how much tren?? what kind of tren??

 

[elgenyo]

how much tren?? what kind of tren??

30mg of Tren-TFO which is 19-norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione