has anyone used clen with a ph cycle?

  1. has anyone used clen with a ph cycle?


    if so what would be a good ph cycle with clen ? (liquid clen)


  2. any cutting cycle.

  3. ahh, for instance? lol 4ad and m5aa?
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  4. You can use it with any ph, use your imagination. Cramping and pumps, especially back pumps might be a little rough with M1T, though. 4AD+M5AA will work fine, or M4OHN, M-Dien, 1-test trans or cyp, ect. Like I said, use your imagination.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier
    You can use it with any ph, use your imagination. Cramping and pumps, especially back pumps might be a little rough with M1T, though. 4AD+M5AA will work fine, or M4OHN, M-Dien, 1-test trans or cyp, ect. Like I said, use your imagination.
    Would one be better served using Clen along with PCT?

    Gumbo

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Gumbo
    Would one be better served using Clen along with PCT?

    Gumbo
    Clen is used during PCT for its anti-catabolic properties to help maintain gains. When used this way the dose is usally lower than you'd use to cut. You do not want to try to cut during PCT.

    Clen used for cutting is done with higher doses, caloric deficit, cardio, etc.

  7. ahh, nice i heard abou tthat also doing clen pct but i was wondering why thanks

  8. I read that clen's anti-catabolic/muscle building properties were proven to only work for animals and NOT in humans.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Longdog
    Clen is used during PCT for its anti-catabolic properties to help maintain gains. When used this way the dose is usally lower than you'd use to cut. You do not want to try to cut during PCT.

    Clen used for cutting is done with higher doses, caloric deficit, cardio, etc.
    Ahhhh....thanks. Now it makes sense!

    Gumbo

  10. Clen used during PCT will also help keep fat storage at bay, since you should be eating above maintenance calories when you come off androgens.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Longdog
    Clen is used during PCT for its anti-catabolic properties to help maintain gains. When used this way the dose is usally lower than you'd use to cut. You do not want to try to cut during PCT.

    Clen used for cutting is done with higher doses, caloric deficit, cardio, etc.
    Learn something new every day.

    What would be a good dosage for pct clen use?????

  12. If you've never used used clen before, start at 40mcg, Increase by 20-40mcg every day until you get up to 100mcg. That should be high enough to give you the anti-catabolic effects without causing the shakes or headaches, etc. You can go higher if you need to, but unless you're cutting you really don't need that much.
  

  
 

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