If you didn't include the deca, I'd say your cycle looks pretty good, but missing HCG during cycle. But since you include deca, no SERM/AI is going to help you with E2 issues. Why you would risk so much on your first cycle is beyond me. They don't call it deca d ick for nothing.
There isn't one. You run deca you roll the dice and hope for the best.
absolutely, but if you had no problems you may not be prone to the sides. I say run it!
first time. drop the deca. we need your stats.
good question. how do you know estrogen sides are arising? i hate answering a question with a question but the sides are somewhat similar, you will know for sure when your nipples start leaking milk and you have to go buy pasties so your gym shirt doesn't get wet.
What's better to run besides deca? Anything, even peanut butter.
What is it with you and deca? Somthing happen? Really, what's better. What's a good bulking cycle. You take a chance jacking up any kind of roid. I just want to know because anyone I have talked to say "deca" I have never Hurd penutbutter . There is eq....
What exactly do you think deca does and I'll tell you what I would take instead. If you wander into a drug den and everyone is shooting heroin, that doesn't make it right; it just means that everyone is shooting heroin. Deca became popular in the late 80's/early 90's based on several misconceptions. Its popularity faded, then for some unexplainable reason, resurfaced as some kind of "must-have" drug in your cycle. I've posted numerous reason why deca is bad and I can't waste bandwidth re-posting the same thing over and over again. If you want deca, take it. You may not even notice the sides; then again, there's the case of the 19 year old...
The medical establishment gives Stanzabol, Testosterone, Nandrolone, etc. for wasting disease because it's anabolic and fights the effects of wasting away. The studies are conducted on patients with basically nothing to lose, and they don't study the effects of ED or lack of libido for obvious reasons. Those doctors that decide to use nandrolone (and I understand it's not FDA approved any longer in the States) do so/did so because those patients may tolerate it better than pure testosterone.
I don't mean to knock you down. Sorry if I appear short in my responses. Deca has some bad sides that some tolerate well, while others do not. The sides will occur, it's just the level of deca you can tolerate that is in question. It may not be worth the risk, especially on your first cycle.
3-4 weeks of 20-30mg nolvadex is fien after cycle for PCT. start it 1-2 weeks AFTER last shot.
bromo or caber
orals like dbol and anadrol are liver toxic, so 4-8weeks of use is ok. i wouldent push passed 8 weeks.
Sure the orals are liver toxic, but the damage to the liver is less than daily doses of Ibuprofen and the liver will recover rapidly. I have both adrol and dbol in injectables. Point being, deca is far more damaging to your system than either dbol or adrol, at let's say 50mgs per day, no more than 6 weeks. No matter what you take, there will be some matter of give and take. I have taken tren up to a gram a week and didn't have horrible sides. A gram of tren a week is way too much, by the way.
How much is a gram in ml? I have some tren e. I think I'm going to just finish up this cycle with 500mgs of test e, and 3 ml of tri test a week I think thats 900 mgs of of the tri. That would bring my test e to 800 mgs a week, test prop to 300mgs a week and test cyp to 300. Should I up the tri or do you think that's a good number?
I have taken deca years ago with no problems. That said I am in no way a authority on this stuff but I'd like to know why deca is so bad. I know it can shut you down but so can test.
I hate to redirect you, but if you will, please go to the last couple of pages of Morry's log, and I posted a lengthy post about deca and why it's harmful. One problem is the E2 can not be controlled with any conventional AI or SERM. The reason is due to the way it's produced. Blocking the receptors is useless. Also the misconception that it's more potent than test is in error. Deca is actually less potent than testosterone. That, along with the prolactin issues and length of time in the body make it an undesirable drug. The claim that it will promote collagen synthesis is misleading because so will test, at TRT doses (200-300mg). You can go up to cycle doses and add proviron to promote collagen synthesis without the sides. You can also add equip, but I personally am not a fan of equip.
Well you def sound like you know this subject.....I'll look it over.......I just never had a problem with it....ever
A lot of young guys don't have problems with relatively conservative doses of deca. The sides are still there, but their ability to cope seems more robust. The other issue is that deca sides are usually attributed to something else so the user believes the deca is safe, but that other "gear" is bad or the test is too high, etc. But if you have a positive history of deca use and like it, then just be aware of the latent sides that may surface later. Deca d ick is one of them.
"Deca dick is one of them" after cycle like what years?
this is how you waste your third post
Sup yo.........take it easy sparky
It should be stated on the gear you have. what concentration did you get? did you fail elementary school math?
Thanks for the help, but don't you think your being a bit of an ass? Just asking if you see it. Look bud if it was spelled out for me I would be able to tell. It's not.my gear is from a underground lab so the label is basic. But thanks anyways. Man you sound cool, wish I could hang with you because the sec you talked to me like that..... Well I think you know what you would be eating. Size 12
What are you trying to convert? As you said, it's written on the face of the vial. If all you have is a 5mL vial, you have no idea what you have inside. I don't understand what medical conversion calculator you could possibly be referring to.
Yup, I can be an ass at times. Reading about a bunch of 130lb 5'11 17yo's (not you by any means) asking about what the "best" bulking stack is, or "is a blend of test, tren, deca, mast blend with a dbol, SD, tbol, var kicker run for 29wks a good first cycle" tends to make people asses after reading. No hard feelings. Just that what you said made no sense to me, plus, it must've been one of the last posts I made for the night, so I apologize for that if it offended you.
Basically, if you have a vial that just says "test-e, 10ml" Then you really have NO IDEA what the concentration is. could be 1mg/ml, and the entire bottle contains only 10mg of test-e, or it could be some crazy high 500mg/ml, and you'll have 5g in that bottle. Unless you know your source, and are confident of its contents, I wouldn't run it. most UGLs will ahve more info than just that, and will give you a concentration.
I was trying to help out Big Boy D and answer his question. I was letting him know that they also have convesion calculators on medical sites or you could just google whatever you are looking to equate and it should bring up the calculator for future questions. like the question he had about how many mg's in a gram.
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