Very low to no libido at end of PCT.. what to do?

[Sluice]

Hi,

I'm 23, and just finished my first PH cycle.
I still have 3 days left of Clomid left to do for my 4 week PCT.


During my cycle and most of PCT, my libido was pretty much normal.
THEN, 2 weeks into PCT, I had a pilonidal cyst. (which means I couldn't train and I was on antibiotic for 10 days)


CYCLE
Beastdrol (superdrol) 10/20/20

PCT (as originally planned)
Clomid (liquid) 70/50/50/25
BioForge V3 from day 1 but stopped after injury thinking I was gonna be wasting it. (MISTAKE!) The libido started going down from there.
PES Erase (didn't start on the 3rd week like planned but instead 10 days later because of antibiotic)


Here's what I have on hand.. and currently taking (since 3 days ago.. since the day after my last antibiotic dose...)

Allmax TestoFX Loaded (I just started a 30 day cycle of it) @ the recommended dose - 3 caps morning
Allmax Tribulus - 2 caps evening ~12 hours after the TestoFX (Hoping it helps the libido)
PES Erase - 2 caps/day

What should I do?

Stop the PCT 3 days early and continue only with the test booster?
Should I had Bioforge into the mix again?
Continue the PCT for another week?

Do you guys think that my libido is down because my estrogen level it TOO low?

Any personal experience and opinions are highly welcomed... this situation is frustrating for the lady (and scary for me...)


PS:
*Getting bloodwork done is currently not an option..
*The boys "down there" are back to their normal size since a week into PCT..
*I am more emotional than normal (more easily sad and short tempered) Overall mood is good thougt.
*Energy levels are good.
*Strength is almost as good (I was able to to my chest yesterday and was surprised to see that I could still lift the same weight as at the end of my cycle for 8 reps instead of 10... still happy about that)
*lost about 12-15lbs (mostly water) but manager to kept a good lean 10-12lbs

 

[steppinRazor]

Natty test boosters didn't really do it for me, libido-wise, after my sd cycle..try upping the erase to 3 caps a day.. had me feeling like I was in highschool again..was easily ready 2-3 times a day

 

[Sluice]

Natty test boosters didn't really do it for me, libido-wise, after my sd cycle..try upping the erase to 3 caps a day.. had me feeling like I was in highschool again..was easily ready 2-3 times a day

Good to know... I shall try that.

How long did it take for you to really feel the effect of Erase?

 

[steppinRazor]

I don't really remember but within 7-10 days at 3 caps a day maybe? Might even be faster for u since you've already been dosing at 2..idunno, good luck hope it works out for you - I know how frustrating that can be

 

[nattydisaster]

Finish your PCT.

Stack 2 caps Erase Erase and DAA if your libido is still low. If you have more bioforge throw it in the mix. Only going to help

 

[Sluice]

I still have a bottle of BioForge. I was originaly going to keep it for another stack.. Now I don't really give a dam! (I just want my libido back!), but,

Since I'm I just started TestoFX Loaded (a natural test booster from Allmax) and tribulus (1.5g per day), 3 days ago....
Wouldn't adding another test booster (Bio Forge) be too much?

I know tribulus won't do jack for my T levels, but I'm taking it for the libido increase some people says it gives.

 

[gymrat827]

use all the natural T boosters you have. the tribulus isnt going to much at all, dont expect it to.

 

[Jasen]

Daa plus erase also alot of times long sessions if pct kill libido. Don't worry

 

[nattydisaster]

I would still drop the tribulous personally. I would rather know my libido is working because my T levels are restored

 

[Sluice]

Thanks for all the tips guys... very appreciate it!

starting tonight I will add BioForge.

So my "after PCT stack" will be as follow:

-TestoFX Loaded @ 3 caps a day (recommended dose)
-Bio Forge @ 4 caps a day (max recommended dose)
-PES Erase @ 2/3 caps a day depending of joint issue
-Tribulus @ 2 caps a day (for libido?)

+ Clomid @ 25mg/day for 3 days (as originally planned)

About the tribulus? Should I just keep it for libido purpose? I know it won't do jack for my T level... but apparently it's "good" for the libido.

I'll try to start training more at the gym now that I'm starting to feel better.. Thing is.. I can't do my Legs for at least a month... and I can't push it too hard with the rest.

 

[Jasen]

Drop trip ur after pct looks to.complicated keep it simple. Bulk DAA and erase that's what I will do. Maybe some powerful for prolactin one usp makes bulks again but that would be best covet prolactin estrogen and test in three simple ingrridents

 

[Jasen]

Im running test 1gram 5-6monyhs! And that will be mine after pct. Of course im using hcg as well.last 8eks of cycle a and good pct. But yeah "keep it simple keep it PES®" loll

 

[Sluice]

Today will be my first day with the 2 natty test booster: TextoFX Loaded & BioForge.
It is also the first day that I bump the Erase to 3 to see if I can handle it.

Split as followed: (Critic/suggest?)

MORNING (upon rising - empty stomach)
3 x TextoFX
2 x BioForge
1 x Erase

LUNCH (20 min before eating)
1 x BioForge
1 x Erase

EVENING (20 min before eating)
1 x BioForge
1 x Erase
Clomid 25mg (only 2 days left)

Hopefully my libido will be back ASAP! It's getting more frustrating everyday...

 

[gymrat827]

I would continue on with the clomid if you still have problems. Read and research on clomid more, it is the best serm for restarting hpta. I dont want to say that longer term or long term use of it is a good thing but it will surely get your body producing on its own very quickly.

 

[Sluice]

I would continue on with the clomid if you still have problems. Read and research on clomid more, it is the best serm for restarting hpta. I dont want to say that longer term or long term use of it is a good thing but it will surely get your body producing on its own very quickly.

I already done 4 weeks of Clomid (in 3 days..)
@70/50/50/25

Isn't adding another week... pushing it? Should I continue Clomid for 1 more week @ 25mg/day?
I will research on the subject, but opinions and experiences, here would be appreciated.

 

[Jasen]

That's a very low dose cycle... id do clomid 100 100 75 50

 

[Sluice]

That's a very low dose cycle... id do clomid 100 100 75 50

Since I already done 70/50/50/25 (which from my research seemed to be enough)... should I continue Clomid, or not?
A couple of days? A week? at 25mg/day? 50mg/day? Higher for a couple of days? (tempered down from 100)

 

[Jasen]

Ummm check withbsomeone else but try this clomid 50 50 50 50 WITH erase or nolva since clomid can increase estrogen

 

[Sluice]

Ummm check withbsomeone else but try this clomid 50 50 50 50 WITH erase or nolva since clomid can increase estrogen

You suggest that I do another 4 weeks of Clomid at 50/50/50/50, right after a 70/50/50/25 cycle? That seem like excessive? Isn't Clomid bad in the long run??

Ps: i've bump my dose at 50mg instead of 25mg for today and will do so for a couple more days for a total of 5 week of clomid. (the last 9 days of clomid shall be at 50mg for 6 days and 25mg for the last 3 days)

What do you guys think of that? Good idea or I should drop the Clomid after my 4 week is completed?

 

[Jasen]

Just finish of at 50mg imo then

 

[fueledpassion]

Surprisingly, there is not a lot of decent info going around in this thread. You need to stop addressing the issue of low testosterone. Considering that you've expressed that ur strength and stamina is normal if not superb, ur mood is decent, and u'vr been running Clomid for 4 weeks already - I'd say its safe to bet ur test is normal now. What isn't fixed is ur estrogen. All those t-boosters and no estro control? Bring the estrogen down and continue DAA. Run a MODEST amount of AI such as Form for 3-4 weeks and see if this addresses ur issue at least in part. Dont kill the estrogen, just lower it. And remember, @ 50mg of Clomid for 14 days is enough to restore natural levels of testosterone in men.However, all of this is just an educated guess without the bloods..

 

[Sluice]

By the way, I'm definitly thinking of getting some powerFULL to help...
Apparently this thing is great for the sex drive. I'll still give it a week or so the current stack.

If I had PowerFULL, stack would be as follow:

TestoFX + bio forge + erase + powerFULL

Mmm this is getting complicated...! I just want my god damm libido back (and so does the gf..)

 

[Jasen]

Imo I think I said earlier Daa, erase, powerful. When u end clomid. I'll take care of test estrogen prolactin.

 

[Sluice]

Surprisingly, there is not a lot of decent info going around in this thread. You need to stop addressing the issue of low testosterone. Considering that you've expressed that ur strength and stamina is normal if not superb, ur mood is decent, and u'vr been running Clomid for 4 weeks already - I'd say its safe to bet ur test is normal now. What isn't fixed is ur estrogen. All those t-boosters and no estro control? Bring the estrogen down and continue DAA. Run a MODEST amount of AI such as Form for 3-4 weeks and see if this addresses ur issue at least in part. Dont kill the estrogen, just lower it. And remember, @ 50mg of Clomid for 14 days is enough to restore natural levels of testosterone in men.However, all of this is just an educated guess without the bloods..

So you suggest that after my 4 weeks of Clomid, I should stop it?

For blocking my estro, I've got PES Erase and apparently TestoFX has some kind of ability to lower estro and cortisol.

I'm not taking any DAA at the moment.

I'm only taking:
T booster: TextoFX Loaded, Bio Forge
AI: Erase
To help with libido: tribulus

 

[fueledpassion]

Yeah I'd say get Cialis or Viagra from ur local research company until u can get bloods done and/or go to the doctor..

 

[Sluice]

Yeah I'd say get Cialis or Viagra from ur local research company until u can get bloods done and/or go to the doctor..

This is an idea, except I'm still not really in the mood to start with.

On a better note, I think I'm getting better. I had intense morning wood this morning when I woke up. (which is a first since a week or so).

On a NOT better note, I still can't train... the nurse doesn't want me to (otherwise my incision might not heal as fast) and trust me I'm sick of going to see the nurse to change my med packing!!! Still might train chest and arms.. back and legs are not going to be possible I'm afraid

 

[Sluice]

Well here's an update...

On a % scale, if my libido was at 0 the past week, (and that I was 100% before the cycle), I would say I'm about at 60-70%.
Feel a lot better, still not back to 100% though.

I've figured that my test production is back on, so I stopped Clomid as planned (did 4 week @ 70/50/50/25), will continue with TestoFX, bioforge and Erase... even if I can't currently train.