well, man, im suprised you know so much about me, you are right, i have never injected testosterone enanthate.
I have ran anavar though in the past. I have also ran 1 gram of 4-androstenediol e/d a couple of times.
now just being moderate, because 4-androstenediol doesn't need to convert to interact with the androgen receptor, but, even if you only had a low 10 percent of that direct precursor to testosterone convert, that would amount to 700mg of straight testosterone per week.
okay, lets be even more modest, lets say 5 percent converted, that would give 350mg of straight testosterone per week.
and this would be just the testosterone, nothing to do with the weaker binding diol compound that didn't convert.
most like to quote the in vivo studies done on 4-androstenediol having a 15% conversion rate, but i dont like to look at that, cause that would mean i had 1,050mg of straight testosterone with no ester running in my system each weak.
and dont even want to think if i had better conversion.
I had always thought test is test, but maybe im wrong, and there are different kinds of non estered testosterone.
now, maybe some day when im older, and much more wiser, i will inject a long ester testosterone, and it will be way better than testosterone with no ester. i dont know, so I can give the benifit of the doubt on that experience.
but the point of my argument is gains. stop looking at orals which are more powerful than the derivatives they are based from (test, dht, nor test).
i've yet been able to have someone explain to me how someone who gains the same amount of weight, but runs different cycles, say, a 6 week cycle of test suspension, the other runs a 10 week cycle of test e, if both gained 15lbs, why is the longer cycle's weight different? both are actually on cycle for about the same amount of time.
but like you said, i have no experience with large amounts of injectables, only steroids that can pass as vitamins or supplements, meaning orals. and the non esterfied testosterone made from the hormone 4-androstenediol is obviously different than the non esterfied testosterone you inject (which i hope you can help me to understand the differences in testosterones)
me being a rep has only a minor amount to do with my knowledge on aas, as i didn't become a rep for cel until after we stopped producing those famous compounds.
but it does have to do with other companies paying me with cash for my info on aas, which is nice, cause i dont ask anyone for it, they come to me. must be cause im so cool though, since i dont know squat about all the various compounds i've tried for myself.
( If I am completely wrong about the subject of testosterone, I appologize, but im just not seeing the experts in the field of aas who have used injectable testosterone, disagreeing with the studies, or touting the same things big guys who get a little bigger using steroids are saying)
but im done, and will have to agree that we disagree. this is pointless, others aren't going to provide data based facts, just anecdotal, and im just going to keep asking for that like an ignorant bastard.