Here is my epistane cycle. Please rate and comment.

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    Here is my epistane cycle. Please rate and comment.


    I want to make good gains, but most important for me is to protect liver as much as possible on ph cycle.

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    epistane 30/30/30/40/40/40
    Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support (2x a day)
    Fish Oil (1000mg a day)
    Milk Thistle (<---- not sure)(some people say it can inhibit gains)
    Hawthorne Berry (<---- not sure) (does epi causes high blood pressure?)


    pct

    NOlva 20/20/10/10
    Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support
    Fish Oil
    Activate xtreme
    Milk Thistle
    Creatine

    Does this look good? is there anything missing or unnecessary?
    Thx in advance for help!

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    Looks good man. I would probably preload the HB for 1-2 weeks prior to the cycle. I would just run the cycle support during the cycle. And just run liv 52 and lean xtreme and possibly a test booster in PCT. Then you are good to go. Make sure you are not proned to MPB, because most people shed on EPI. Maybe include some nizoral shampoo to mitigate this potential side. Good Luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by psc View Post
    I want to make good gains, but most important for me is to protect liver as much as possible on ph cycle.

    cycle

    epistane 30/30/30/40/40/40
    Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support (2x a day)
    Fish Oil (1000mg a day)
    Milk Thistle (<---- not sure)(some people say it can inhibit gains)
    Hawthorne Berry (<---- not sure) (does epi causes high blood pressure?)


    pct

    NOlva 20/20/10/10
    Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support
    Fish Oil
    Activate xtreme
    Milk Thistle
    Creatine

    Does this look good? is there anything missing or unnecessary?
    Thx in advance for help!
    A couple of thoughts:

    Don't be afraid to bump the epi dosage up if you aren't seeing anything out of it. I'd see how week one goes and if you don't have any negative sides, bump up to 40 for week 2. Let how your body responds/feels guide how you dose. If you're getting great gains and no sides, feel free to keep it down there. Most guys like the 60 area with epi, so don't short change yourself. Running it for 6 weeks regardless is going to mess with levels (at least a bit).

    I'd run a full-fledged cycle support product ON cycle before I'd run it post (if running a SERM, I'd run it in both cases, though). So the the Cycle Support on cycle, too.

    Take creatine on cycle as well.

    Up your fish oil. 1 gram if less than what I take on a regular basis. If you're on cycle, you should up that significantly (healthy fats = good calories, too). Bump it up or pick up some krill oil and add that in.

    Other than that, the cycle looks fine.

    Good luck.
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    Your nolva dose is too low, I would run 40/40/20/20/10 (if you feel it is needed). If you dose the Epi at 40 mgs, you will be quite shut down and need the nolva to get you going. Also, you should run 10 grams of fish oil a day and about 2-4 grams of Hawthorne berry, it is cheap and helps with BP. I see no taurine listed, it will be needed at 10 grams per day with your cycle support. To be frank, you have a plan though the addition of the new RLS Transderm would really put this cycle over the top. You could start it 2 weeks prior with your support supps and run it up to your PCT. It is a reasonably cheap addition and if you are willing to wait for it to come out, there will be gains past what you could get on your own with the Epi. Look into it, you won't be disappointed you spent the extra money on it.
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    thx everybody! I have changed my cycle from your comments!!
    can anyone comment on Milk Thistle?
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    Milk thistle is already contained in cycle support, extra supplementation is unnecessary. Same goes for hawthorn berry. Fish oil is way too low, I take at least 5 grams every day whether I'm on-cycle or off. I would only buy 1 cycle support and use something like PCT assist after your cycle.

    I generally prefer to save the creatine for after the cycle to help keep gains, some prefer to run it all the way through though. Whichever suits you the most.
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    Love this cycle, you'll get quality gains for sure, keep us updated? And I ran havoc at 40 for 5-6 weeks. Loved it.
  

  
 

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