Virgil1069
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Greetings,
let me start by saying, I know, I know - screw Complete Nutrition and methylated PHs, but I bought a stack from them and now am coming to you guys hoping for some help. (Just to explain, I stopped by the store while my wife was shoe shopping at our last stop of a road trip to the US. I was looking for a test booster to take back to Canada with me as we get screwed on our selection up here).
Anyway, the rep never mislead me in anyway and I understood what a PH was but I decided to go ahead and buy the stack as I won't be back in the US for a while, have been looking for a test kickstart and had some money to spend.
About me: 33 years old, 5'11", 170lbs, 8-9%bf. been training off and on for 10 years, but religiously for 2 years. I know what I am in doing in the weight room and my diet is right. My last blood work showed high cholestrol (got a script for Crestor which I will not be using, but that is a topic for a different day) and my test was on the very lowest end of normal.
I currently take multi (Animal Pak), pre-workout (NO-Xplode), creatine (Cellmass), BCAA (Xtend), Omega-3. I also have ZMA and Animal Stak collecting dust.
My goal is to increase lean muscle mass. I am satisfied with my physique, but feel I have hit a plateau and test may be my issue, so now that my diet and training are right I would like to get a little bigger quickly.
About the stack:
Here is what they recommended:
Week 1 and 2
5-Deca-Zol, 1 morning and 1 night
each cap contains:
2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol 15mg
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol 12.5mg
Week 3 and 4
5-deca-zol, 1 morning and 1 night
Super-Nova, 1 morning and 2 night
each cap contains:
2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol 10mg
6,7 dyhydroxybergamottin, Vanadyl, Bioperine 22.5mg
Week 5 and 6
Super-Nova, 1 morning and 2 night
Epi-cynodrone, 1 morning and 1 night
each cap contains:
2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one 10 mg
2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 10 mg
6,7 dyhydroxybergamottin, Vanadyl, Bioperine 22.5mg
Week 7 and 8
Epi-cynodrone, 1 morning and 1 night
Week 9 and 10
Optimizer, 1 morning and 1 night
each cap contains:
Anti-estrogen blend 125 mg
Chrysin (5,7-dihydroxyflavone), Calcium D-Glutarate
Liver detoxifying blend 75mg
Milk thistle, Dandelion
Prostate Support Blend 55mg
Saw Palmetto, Pygeum extract
6-estro-pct, 1 morning and 1 night
each cap contains:
6-bromodione 75mg
4,7-dihydroxyisoflavone, diindolylmethane, 6,7-dihydroxybergamottin (blend) 175mg
white button mushroom extract 175mg
He stated I should also take the Optimizer if I ever drink alcohol, which I am trying to avoid to maximize my gains...but it is summer and I am Canadian so it will happen.
I will be drinking as much water as I can throughout this cycle.
My concerns:
what else should I add for liver toxicity?
Should I be taking a test booster now, or wait until after week 8?
Is this PCT enough?
My biggest concern:
what about a SERM? I workout in my home gym, so I don't have gym friends that might be able to hook me up. My family doc is a little old man and I don't think he will give me a prescription, but I could ask. Anyone have a recommended online retailer? I am sure getting it across the border will be a problem.
I know I am new here and there is a lot of info to read through, which I have been doing. However, I did not find anything that answered my specific stack, so please at least try to refrain from too much lecturing.
I really appreciate any help/advice you guys can give!
Thanks,
Virgil1069
let me start by saying, I know, I know - screw Complete Nutrition and methylated PHs, but I bought a stack from them and now am coming to you guys hoping for some help. (Just to explain, I stopped by the store while my wife was shoe shopping at our last stop of a road trip to the US. I was looking for a test booster to take back to Canada with me as we get screwed on our selection up here).
Anyway, the rep never mislead me in anyway and I understood what a PH was but I decided to go ahead and buy the stack as I won't be back in the US for a while, have been looking for a test kickstart and had some money to spend.
About me: 33 years old, 5'11", 170lbs, 8-9%bf. been training off and on for 10 years, but religiously for 2 years. I know what I am in doing in the weight room and my diet is right. My last blood work showed high cholestrol (got a script for Crestor which I will not be using, but that is a topic for a different day) and my test was on the very lowest end of normal.
I currently take multi (Animal Pak), pre-workout (NO-Xplode), creatine (Cellmass), BCAA (Xtend), Omega-3. I also have ZMA and Animal Stak collecting dust.
My goal is to increase lean muscle mass. I am satisfied with my physique, but feel I have hit a plateau and test may be my issue, so now that my diet and training are right I would like to get a little bigger quickly.
About the stack:
Here is what they recommended:
Week 1 and 2
5-Deca-Zol, 1 morning and 1 night
each cap contains:
2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol 15mg
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol 12.5mg
Week 3 and 4
5-deca-zol, 1 morning and 1 night
Super-Nova, 1 morning and 2 night
each cap contains:
2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol 10mg
6,7 dyhydroxybergamottin, Vanadyl, Bioperine 22.5mg
Week 5 and 6
Super-Nova, 1 morning and 2 night
Epi-cynodrone, 1 morning and 1 night
each cap contains:
2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one 10 mg
2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 10 mg
6,7 dyhydroxybergamottin, Vanadyl, Bioperine 22.5mg
Week 7 and 8
Epi-cynodrone, 1 morning and 1 night
Week 9 and 10
Optimizer, 1 morning and 1 night
each cap contains:
Anti-estrogen blend 125 mg
Chrysin (5,7-dihydroxyflavone), Calcium D-Glutarate
Liver detoxifying blend 75mg
Milk thistle, Dandelion
Prostate Support Blend 55mg
Saw Palmetto, Pygeum extract
6-estro-pct, 1 morning and 1 night
each cap contains:
6-bromodione 75mg
4,7-dihydroxyisoflavone, diindolylmethane, 6,7-dihydroxybergamottin (blend) 175mg
white button mushroom extract 175mg
He stated I should also take the Optimizer if I ever drink alcohol, which I am trying to avoid to maximize my gains...but it is summer and I am Canadian so it will happen.
I will be drinking as much water as I can throughout this cycle.
My concerns:
what else should I add for liver toxicity?
Should I be taking a test booster now, or wait until after week 8?
Is this PCT enough?
My biggest concern:
what about a SERM? I workout in my home gym, so I don't have gym friends that might be able to hook me up. My family doc is a little old man and I don't think he will give me a prescription, but I could ask. Anyone have a recommended online retailer? I am sure getting it across the border will be a problem.
I know I am new here and there is a lot of info to read through, which I have been doing. However, I did not find anything that answered my specific stack, so please at least try to refrain from too much lecturing.
I really appreciate any help/advice you guys can give!
Thanks,
Virgil1069