low dose DNP and building strength

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    Has anyone ever implemented low dose DNP and still built strength on a standard cutting cycle with AAS?

    My current EOD training 1-3 reps and a good number of sets on all exercises except Flyes and Curls which are 3 sets of ~10:

    Day A: Bench, Muscle ups, Cleans, Incline DB Chest Flyes.
    Day B: Weighted Chin ups, Squats, Jerks, BB Curls, Reverse BB Curls

    I'm running a Test E + Tren E cutting cycle. Would I still gain strength if I did crystal DNP 400-500mg on non-workout days? Obviously the half life is longer than a day but this would be better than 200-250 ED no? This would create a more timed caloric deficit akin to carb cycling.

    If DNP just makes a deficit then surely I can gain strength if the deficit is not too large like a normal cutting cycle? Or is there some other physiological reason why it isn't possible?

    Thanks

    (No comments saying just diet, dnp is the easy way out etc. I don't care lol)

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    I wouldn't really call 400-500mg low-dose, more like mid-dose.

    I would run it lower, around 200-300.
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    200 EOD or ED? When I took 250 ED I lost about a pound a week so my thinking was 500 EOD = 250 ED but blood levels would be higher on non training days when protein synthesis is lower that the day of training anyway.
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    IMO, I would run it every day, around 200-300 per day.
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    ok thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    IMO, I would run it every day, around 200-300 per day.
    i second this. most DNP runs are for short periods, but i can see a lower dose being run 2-3 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    i second this. most DNP runs are for short periods, but i can see a lower dose being run 2-3 weeks.
    I remember reading a study conc posted where the subjects ran it for about a year (or some long period) with no ill effects. I have done a 4 weeker at 250 before with no noticable sides but no gear so I only maintained strength. Think I'm just gonna start it now and see how it goes for the whole cycle and stop if I notice sides or have a lack of gains. Cheers guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butchall View Post
    I remember reading a study conc posted where the subjects ran it for about a year (or some long period) with no ill effects. I have done a 4 weeker at 250 before with no noticable sides but no gear so I only maintained strength. Think I'm just gonna start it now and see how it goes for the whole cycle and stop if I notice sides or have a lack of gains. Cheers guys.
    sounds like a good plan
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    Quote Originally Posted by butchall View Post
    I remember reading a study conc posted where the subjects ran it for about a year (or some long period) with no ill effects. I have done a 4 weeker at 250 before with no noticable sides but no gear so I only maintained strength. Think I'm just gonna start it now and see how it goes for the whole cycle and stop if I notice sides or have a lack of gains. Cheers guys.
    My short-term, higher-dosed cycles were miserable and not much more productive than the longer/lower protocols.
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    How long Dsade? And at what doses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    How long Dsade? And at what doses?
    200-300mg a day for 4-8 weeks is not out of the question.
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    Every time I ran DNP my strength would plumit and I'd lose muscle. I think running it on cycle would negate those problems well enough to build strength. The only thing I see getting in the way is how DNP starves your cells of ATP. Normal cutting just restrains calories but the cells still make enough energy while DNP hinders metabolic efficiency. Not only restraining calories but restraining the quantity of the cells main source of energy. I'm curious to see if that makes a difference while on cycle.
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