How bad would it be if I......
- 06-22-2011, 05:03 PM
How bad would it be if I......
Just finished with my pct a couple of days ago. My strength needs a boost. So my question is can I stack LGSciences t-911 and LGScience Sub Sterone ( I basically got them both for nothing, so its nothing I treasure or plan on saving).
I never take anything between pct and my next cycle and thats becoming a problem because between the time frame (end of pct to beginning of next cycle) I lose ALMOST everything I gained from the previous cycle. My body refuses to go to 220 which is a big goal for me my last few cycles I get close but by the time their over and my next cycle begins Im almost back to square 1.
I have these on hand so I dont feel like going out and getting anything different unless theres a good reason I shouldnt run this and run something else. Suggestions please.
- 06-22-2011, 07:03 PM
i feel your pain bro. i was going through the same thing trying to get to 185. you're going to have to set your goal higher and then diet down.
dont know if you have a gut, but you're gonna have to get one to go higher.
i really cant give advice on this though, I gave it up, and chose to slim down and stick with it. I've got a plan to get 10-15lbs, it involves m1t & 4-androstenediol, but im scared of the gyno. ha ha ha.
06-22-2011, 08:12 PM
No I definitely dont have a gut and thats my fear honestly. But I see your point. I can get there the dirty way for sure bc my way is not working. Getting to 210 was a breeze and now its a brick wall. Ill be 213-215 by bedtime but every morning I will wake to 210 (i wake up like 2-3 throughout the night to drain my casein shake).
This has been going on for literally 1 year this back and forth bs. So its time to change the routine. Its the break between pct and next cycle without a doubt. Its such a bytch right?
Im going to run those last two cycles you helped me set up (hella/m-lmg and then Boladrol) if that doest get me over the hump, I give up and will just get totally ripped. Im content wih that bc thats the way my body is designed to be I suppose.
06-22-2011, 08:38 PM
Use Osta between cycles with some OTC non-hormonal stuff like, PowerFULL, X-Factor Advanced, M-Stak, etc. Also, diet plays a huge role in people losing their gains (along with training, try switching things up) so keep up the eating, dont worry about gaining a lb or two during pct, its better than losing your muscle.
Also, maybe try running longer cycles, such as a Test E cycle with some PHs in it, or just a 6 week cycle of a PH.
06-22-2011, 08:40 PM
JB is right, consume massive amounts of food, put on more fat-but alot more muscle, i bulked up to 250 on test/dbol/deca- i wasnt fat but i def was bloated, now im dieting down- right around 220 i need to get to about 210 to be @10% sigh, and then more cutting to get to 8%
then bulk again
**** i hate cutting
06-22-2011, 08:51 PM
I was considering running a legit test/deca/tbol cycle before I set up my next two stacks. But its definitely something im debating.
06-22-2011, 08:57 PM
06-22-2011, 09:01 PM
But yeah Im gonna run these two components since I have them on hand and just eat eat eat and see where Im at. Thanks for your input guys, appreciate it.
06-22-2011, 11:36 PM
I personally love spawn(tren and epistane). I did it last summer, and ate an ate, drank 2-3 protein shakes a day, and drank my casein everynight. Of course during PCT i lost a little strength, but kept most of my gains. Since then I haven't yet ran any cycles and this transition has been rough. I lost a lot of strength and a decent amount of mass since then. I think it doenst help that I was sick with the flu, then pulled my back out twice at work. I was out of the gym for 2 months. Now getting back into it is really rough, I definately think I'm gona grab me some epistane and trenazone to kick it up a notch.
06-23-2011, 07:01 AM