Anabolics, lifting frequency and intensity?
- 05-17-2011, 08:12 PM
Anabolics, lifting frequency and intensity?
When on cycle, what is the best way to lift and how long do you need to rest each muscle before hitting it again? It would seem like higher volume, and more frequently would be the best. The biggest thing I'm curios about is how frequently can one train, since you will truly be recovering quicker. I've heard it's basically OK to over train on cycle.
- 05-17-2011, 08:28 PM
- 05-17-2011, 08:39 PM
You wouldn't be overtraining on-cycle - more like overREACHING (yes, there is a difference between the two, and many people use the terms interchangeably when they shouldn't).
I still recommend taking at least ONE complete day OFF all training - if not all training, at least one day off from resistance work, to allow for recovery, since your body still needs to recover on-cycle. How many days you lift would depend on what you are used to - for example, if you usually train 5-6 days with weights, then it's fine to continue doing so, but if you usually only do ~3 days, jumping to 5-6 days could be pushing it. Based on that, 4-5 resistance training sessions a week would be my recommendation, depending on what training programme you are following (if you are following one) and how your training is structured.
05-17-2011, 08:46 PM
Theres no simple answer as there are so many anabolics + combinations of them, different doses, etc. As well as the fact that regardless of steroids, a lot of your capability to work out comes from your central nervous system, and a lot of recovery comes from your growth hormone levels so there isn't just 1 answer.
05-17-2011, 09:33 PM
05-17-2011, 09:36 PM
05-17-2011, 09:39 PM
05-17-2011, 09:44 PM
05-17-2011, 09:46 PM
05-17-2011, 09:58 PM
05-18-2011, 05:04 AM
Anabolics help you recover quicker and allow you to work harder. and "overtraining" while on-cycle has a different threshold from "overtraining" while off-cycle.
However, anabolics DO NOT affect your connective tissue or your CNS (CNS effect is debatable though).
That being said, even if you can jump from curling 30lbs to 60lbs in a week, you have a high chance of tearing something since your connective tissue isn't up to par.
Best way is to take a look at your previous non-assisted (natty) training logs and progression. then you can easily ramp that up a bit, as well as add in a few more exercises to fatigue the muscle group more. (ie, that one extra set of pullups, flys, calf raises, etc.). Only with time and more cycles under your belt will you be able to tell how well your connective tissue and CNS can keep up with your increased muscle recovery and strength increase rates.
Better safe than sorry... wouldn't want to tear a ligament on your first cycle.
05-18-2011, 09:10 AM
Remember anabolics don't magically give you extra sleep, or extra growth hormone, so most don't enhance recovery as much as you think. Max LMG is one of the exceptions, ridiculously high dosed testosterone is another, and deca run pretty high (600mg or higher) also helps.
05-18-2011, 12:22 PM
It depends on what your "lifting normally" is. I say use high intensity and volume, but if your body cannot handle that, then you need to consider what it CAN handle.
If you have to ask about this and have not already planned it all out for your goals and needs, then you're not ready yet to consider running a hormonal cycle IMO, but that's just me.
05-18-2011, 08:12 PM
Normally I do about 12 sets per body part, 3-4 sets per exercise, and 8-12 reps per set, but on the PH i was thinking more like, 30 sets for big muscles, and 15-20 for smaller ones? keep the reps the same though
05-18-2011, 08:27 PM
05-18-2011, 08:46 PM
I'm guessing you are looking just for size and not much strength gains then. Still, I'd have to say there's no way you can make that much of a jump in volume with any anabolic at any dose. Unless you have been working out with weights that haven't been stressing you at all.
05-18-2011, 09:18 PM
honestly just lift heavy and eat and sleep.
do what your doing already just push some heavier weights
05-18-2011, 09:47 PM
05-18-2011, 09:53 PM
what im mainly interested in is increasing my weekly volume, which directly goes into how much rest i give a muscle before working it again. if i would benefit from this i would love to increase the total workouts. i normally give each muscle 72 hours of rest between workouts, meaning if i hit my chest monday, friday is when i work it again.
05-18-2011, 10:24 PM
I increased my sets ( volume) but not weight, and made great gains. I was 135 pounds soaking wet and went to 165+. So, I say the key is volume. But, everyone is different as you already know.
05-18-2011, 10:54 PM
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