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I've done two good 1-AD cycles, am almost done cutting and am looking at doing a bulking cycle. I'm looking to gain mass and strength but stay hard. I was going to do a M1T/4AD, but have read and heard too many nasty things about M1T.

Any thoughts about a 4-6 week cycle of:

M4OHN - starting at 12 mg ED
4-AD - starting at 400 mg ED dermabolics transdermal

Amounts may be adjusted upward, depending, on sides

PCT will be standard 4 weeks Nolva.
Milk Thistle
NAC

Any thoughts on this cycle, and also whether I should add 1-AD to the cycle; I still have a few bottles left, and if I add it, what dosage should I add it at.

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If you liked the 1-ad you should think about a 1-test/4ad transdermal cycle. 1-ad is just a precursor to 1-test, so you should get better results (cheaper too).
 

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From the current user feedback 12mgs of MOHN may not be a high enough dose
 
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What are your goals?
 

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What are your goals?
My goals are to add 10 lbs or more of muscle, while keeping bf at 9-10%. Bf will be around 7-8% at the end of my cutting cycle. I also don't want to simply do a cycle that gives me more water retention than muscle.
 
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M4OHN + 1-test is for you (lean mass, great strength)
I'm currently doing it right now, 18 hours in....
 

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M4OHN + 1-test is for you (lean mass, great strength)
I'm currently doing it right now, 18 hours in....
If I do M4OHN + 1-test, any reason to add in the 4-AD? Any lethargy, libido loss, or other things that adding in the 4-AD can overcome?
 
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im running 4-ad on this cycle at ~ 300mg.
1-test 300mg
4-ad ~300mg
M4OHN 20mg

*make sure you have Nolvadex on hand before you begin :)
 

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Ahnold all im going to say is:

Dont not get M1T because of what u hear. Its so cheap, go buy 1 bottle for 10-15 bucks, start at 5mg ed for 1 week, then 10, keep it there, see how u react. If the sides get bad/scare u enuff, just stop. Its only 10 bucks, and of course get PCT + liver stuff ect.

I know many ppl say many bad things, but its different for everyone. All I know is I gained 15 pnds, im 2 weeks into PCT and ive kept 13 while still getting stronger. My mass/str went through the rough, and I didnt experience any sides except lowered appetite.

Either way, GL.
 

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im running 4-ad on this cycle at ~ 300mg.
1-test 300mg
4-ad ~300mg
M4OHN 20mg

*make sure you have Nolvadex on hand before you begin :)
Thanks! Looks like I'll be running about the same cycle. The Nolva will be arriving in the same order as the M4OHN, so I'll have it at the start.
 
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sounds good man, report back on your results (strength and body comp. especially).
Consider the 1-test,4-ad combo with m1,4add next time around. But m1,4add is still pricey with the pills - a homebrew would save money.

Good luck
 
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