i don't know never tried to make my own but it seem like the direction for make testprop from pellets without estridoil and still remaining test prop are kind of in complete. i have takin chem since colledge 3 years ago. will someone eg(skyefire) please post the complete step by step directions for me i mean every little detail without abreviations. skyes post exellent as it is is only usefull for those that have played with pellets an powders before and know whats going on with each step.