Possible fake Havoc? PCT still?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by sokyute View Post
    ****, so should I even bother doing my PCT?
    Email jongator. He's a good dude. I'm sure hel refund you or somethin


  2. Quote Originally Posted by sokyute View Post
    Anyone else here tried to stuff from jongator?
    I bought some Super DMZ 2.0, Xtreme Mass and Xtreme DMZ from him. As far as I can tell the Super DMZ "looks" legit but I haven't taken it yet. The Xtreme Mass and Xtreme DMZ had the plastic safety seal on the top stamped with the Anabolic Technologies logo on it so I was pretty confident that they were good when I got them. I can say with 100% certainty that the Xtreme Mass that I got is legitimate as I'm in the middle of a cycle of it right now.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by johnl1800 View Post
    I bought some Super DMZ 2.0, Xtreme Mass and Xtreme DMZ from him. As far as I can tell the Super DMZ "looks" legit but I haven't taken it yet. The Xtreme Mass and Xtreme DMZ had the plastic safety seal on the top stamped with the Anabolic Technologies logo on it so I was pretty confident that they were good when I got them. I can say with 100% certainty that the Xtreme Mass that I got is legitimate as I'm in the middle of a cycle of it right now.
    Im just very sad right now... =( lol

  4. Contact the seller

  5. Quote Originally Posted by drummy View Post
    Contact the seller
    Doesnt matter he sells bunk **** was only interested in havoc.
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  6. can you guys let me know if it ever worked from jongator ? i just bought some a week ago and it will be my first ph cycle ever ! any ideas ?

  7. @Devious D Do you know how I can build a time machine?. I think there should be a required online class posted by Admin so that people can learn to read dates and stop ignorantly replying to threads from 4 years ago and older.

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  9. Quote Originally Posted by BamBam0319 View Post
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    Hahaha- Doggie!

  10. He has bumped like 3 threads asking the same question lel

  11. So I know I am going to zombie this thread, but here it goes. So I am not sure why you folks were trying to use ebay this prior to 2014. Back to my point, the initial start up cost to make these fake bottles is a little bit of change, but for any entrepreneur minded person would look at these costs as trivial. You can get the capsule filler machine for like $150 (very reusable initial capital cost). A bag of 750 empty gelatin capsules will run you like $11 and whatever cheap filler the seller is willing to use (pennies on the dollar), adding in $.027 for a plastic medicine container and $.012 for the caps and shrink wrap sealer band run you $15.00 for a bundle of 3000. Of course a heat gun might run you a chunk of change (anywhere from $20-$700 after running a simple google search) and a label printer for bottles will run you around $50. Boom now we are in business. The business of fake pill manufacturing.

    How did I find all of this out? I am 99.9% sure I just got duped. And under the sellers description, PM me for his username on EBAY, said the same exact thing. It costs too much to manufacture fake epi..

    However, upon further research I find that a $59.00 bottle of Havoc in sheep's clothing is a very profitable venture. The seller doesn't even charge shipping and handling. I wonder why? Could it be that each bottle is costing him less than $10 and probably around $5???? HMMMMMM......

    My labeling also the EPITHIO/EPITIO typo but was unable to see it until my package arrived.

    Only for ARTARDS like myself.

    I hope my reply does not entice more con artists to getting into the fake PH manufacturing industry.. It probably will.. But to those people... They can go pound sand.

    The opened capsules taste bland and almost like a cornmeal but the substance is white. So not sure if I just cant taste it right, but I smell BS.

    Anyhow I contacted to seller with my concerns and he "assures" me that it is the real deal. So I will take it for three weeks and if nothing else comes from it I have documented enough information to get my refund directly from ebay.

    I know what you are about to say.... But I didn't know it was illegal, I thought it was a test booster plus, duck it bro, I have been in bigger trouble in my days anyways. Not too worried about something so small. Its not like I robbed a bank...

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Chacheeman View Post
    So I know I am going to zombie this thread, but here it goes. So I am not sure why you folks were trying to use ebay this prior to 2014. Back to my point, the initial start up cost to make these fake bottles is a little bit of change, but for any entrepreneur minded person would look at these costs as trivial. You can get the capsule filler machine for like $150 (very reusable initial capital cost). A bag of 750 empty gelatin capsules will run you like $11 and whatever cheap filler the seller is willing to use (pennies on the dollar), adding in $.027 for a plastic medicine container and $.012 for the caps and shrink wrap sealer band run you $15.00 for a bundle of 3000. Of course a heat gun might run you a chunk of change (anywhere from $20-$700 after running a simple google search) and a label printer for bottles will run you around $50. Boom now we are in business. The business of fake pill manufacturing.

    How did I find all of this out? I am 99.9% sure I just got duped. And under the sellers description, PM me for his username on EBAY, said the same exact thing. It costs too much to manufacture fake epi..

    However, upon further research I find that a $59.00 bottle of Havoc in sheep's clothing is a very profitable venture. The seller doesn't even charge shipping and handling. I wonder why? Could it be that each bottle is costing him less than $10 and probably around $5???? HMMMMMM......

    My labeling also the EPITHIO/EPITIO typo but was unable to see it until my package arrived.

    Only for ARTARDS like myself.

    I hope my reply does not entice more con artists to getting into the fake PH manufacturing industry.. It probably will.. But to those people... They can go pound sand.

    The opened capsules taste bland and almost like a cornmeal but the substance is white. So not sure if I just cant taste it right, but I smell BS.

    Anyhow I contacted to seller with my concerns and he "assures" me that it is the real deal. So I will take it for three weeks and if nothing else comes from it I have documented enough information to get my refund directly from ebay.

    I know what you are about to say.... But I didn't know it was illegal, I thought it was a test booster plus, duck it bro, I have been in bigger trouble in my days anyways. Not too worried about something so small. Its not like I robbed a bank...
    Hahaha man, do more research on sources before buying next time. Predator has rpn havoc if you want real epi (i think its out of stock atm but they'll probably restock)

  13. I know PN has it but I was super bummed when I saw that they were out of stock and being impatient I tried elsewhere. I assumed guys like this bought out the stock and resold them at premiums on other platforms. I am on the waiting list for back ordered RPN. This seller swears by his product, so I am going to cycle it for a while and if nothing else I am letting ebay know the product is not as described. Phukit. Live and learn. I will update you if I find out it is what he says it is.
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