trensomnia why does it occur?

[schwellington]

Does anyone know why trenbolone causes insomnia?

i know its a common side just have always been curious and cant find any actual causation for it.

 

[kanakafarian]

I think it's a homonal imbalance that causes insomnia with any AAS/PH/DS. I get insomnia when on anything!

 

[schwellington]

bump for more ideas!

 

[schwellington]

true but im running test so it should SHOULD help mitigate these types of sides, but i guess since tren is rated at a 500/500 aa ratio i shouldnt be too surprised im having insomnia 5 out of 7 nights a week

 

[jbryand101b]

just get an otc sleep product from wal mart. uni som is good.

 

[2k1s]

just get an otc sleep product from wal mart. uni som is good.

I'm pretty sure he wants to find something else he can add into his cycle to balance whatever is giving him insomnia out.

 

[OnTheRoadTo]

I tend to think it is the same reason tren has high aggression, strength, and fat loss - the extreme androgenicity of it jacks you up.

 

[schwellington]

im taking seroquel for the time being while on tren- knocks me flat out, but i sleep too long

 

[dsade]

im taking seroquel for the time being while on tren- knocks me flat out, but i sleep too long

I once slept for 23 hours after taking Seroquel.

 

[schwellington]

lol damn thats A LONG time i just slept till 11 which is wayyyyyy too long

 

[onemind1body]

Seroquel is a tricky one. I used to take it, and it worked. However fatloss was very slow even on a keto style low carb cut. Then I read up on seroquel, particulary it's action as it relates to hyperglycemia and the most extreme and at the least extreme a rise in blood sugar after dosing. And if it's taken at night like I was taking it, it is not synergistic whatsoever with trying to avoid insulin surges going into a sleeping state. Stopped taking it after 6 weeks of use, and fatloss skyrocketed. Just wanted to let you know schwell cause I know you are serious about this recomp phase. There is a ton of literature out there about this, combine that with your knowledge, and you might feel the same .

 

[schwellington]

Seroquel is a tricky one. I used to take it, and it worked. However fatloss was very slow even on a keto style low carb cut. Then I read up on seroquel, particulary it's action as it relates to hyperglycemia and the most extreme and at the least extreme a rise in blood sugar after dosing. And if it's taken at night like I was taking it, it is not synergistic whatsoever with trying to avoid insulin surges going into a sleeping state. Stopped taking it after 6 weeks of use, and fatloss skyrocketed. Just wanted to let you know schwell cause I know you are serious about this recomp phase. There is a ton of literature out there about this, combine that with your knowledge, and you might feel the same .

hmmm, fat loss is still quite rapid with me, HOWEVER i may look into ambien to avoid this


okay i just read some stuff on seroquel, its time to switch lol UH UH ambien here i come

 

[hungryH]

I've read it directly increases cortisol, thats what the meso-rx profile says anyways.
However,I've also heard this several times:http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/book-claims-tren-shuts-down-cortisol-receptors-permanently-245854.html

def not legit imo

 

[onemind1body]

Had a feeling you'd see the light. It took me about 10 minutes of reading to stop using the stuff.

 

[schwellington]

tren doesnt increase cortisol-or are you referring to seroquel, ps. the studies done on insulin surges, they where taking doses for schizophrenics, which means they where taking doses of 300+ mgs, im taking 25-100 mgs and its for a very short time- HOWEVER i do have trazadone which im going to take tonight instead

 

[Presa]

Excellent question, but I doubt you'll find the answer here. I've asked in-depth Q's before and got nothing. Sometimes I think they should name this the "what should I stack with Halodrol board?" PM me if you find the answer. I would like to know why Trenbolone and Tren diene cause insomnia as well as night sweats like a MF'r.

 

[youngguns555]

zma , arginine , and valerian root will get you napping with good quality sleep . And some insane dreams

 

[hungryH]

tren doesnt increase cortisol-or are you referring to seroquel, ps. the studies done on insulin surges, they where taking doses for schizophrenics, which means they where taking doses of 300+ mgs, im taking 25-100 mgs and its for a very short time- HOWEVER i do have trazadone which im going to take tonight instead

Im just staing what I read in one article. It claimed that it directly increases cortisol through the glucocorticoid receptor, I'll try find it

 

[schwellington]

please find it this interests me greatly because, trenbolone has a rating of 500/500- its 5x as strong as test in both departments- it should reduce cortisol like aas do, since its one.


if tren increased cortisol- it would not build crazy mass like it does. HOWEVER! i will conclude that i have no scientific data to back up my speculations but im guessing the people who posted it increases cortisol don't either. However i will give it a read for sure! PM me with it please