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    Who has gyno lumps?


    Hi,

    Just looking to do a little research.
    I have used a few ph products epi / mdrol / phera / d plex / Tren.

    I never had a problem until a cycle of X-tren which left me with lumps behind the nipples. Prior to this I had used others listed and never had a problem. So I guess my question is will the tren caused gyno be a problem in the future with ph,s that previously did not cause a problem?

    Has anybody got experience of running a ph after they have had a prob with gyno and if so did it get any worse?. Obviously i would keep well clear of 19nor products but should running others make the problem worse?

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    I get little ones when i cycle and they disappear in pct. And xtren /diennolone has a deffinate skill in giving people gyno
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    Who has gyno lumps?

    who dosen't? lol
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    I have bad gyno, and after I ran the simple Trifecta stack, it flared up pretty bad. Im actually looking into surgery now, because it is out of hand.
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    my mom and sister have huge gynos... I can see gynos thru their shirt and im embarrassed to go out with them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusrulezzz View Post
    my mom and sister have huge gynos... I can see gynos thru their shirt and im embarrassed to go out with them
    when i realised my mam had gyno I moved out of the house
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusrulezzz View Post
    my mom and sister have huge gynos... I can see gynos thru their shirt and im embarrassed to go out with them
    They should have used some letro man lolz
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    I ran x-tren at 120mg :-O, and got a lump under my right nipple and fluid too! Not supposed to happen, right? Was told it was prolactin induced. All I had on hand was a bottle of the old Ergo 6-oxo. Not supposed to help, right? It did. Took 300mg a day and it was gone in three weeks.

    Tren-x; never again at that dosage.....
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    "Trenbolone, TREN, Nandrolone can cause gyno because they lack a potent 5a-reduced metabolite (dihydronandrolone is weaker than dihydrotestosterone). (15) If you are worried about gyno from progestational steroids you should consider boosting your 5a-reduced metabolites during the cycle (mentioned above). This can avoid most if not all of the gyno problems associated with progestational hormones. I should mention here that aromatase inhibitors alone (AIís) will not help prevent gyno from progestational compounds. It is the antagonistic action of 5a-reduced hormones that is required."

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    1 word, letro
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    I pretty much had exactly the same experience with X Tren.
    So do you guys think the gyno caused by the tren will be agrevated by other compounds that I had previously ran with no problem, in paticular M drol and P plex?
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    Possibly

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    I have lumps under both my nipples after a stack of mdrol and pplex at high dosages, i ran a good pct but it wasn't long enough because I had delayed gyno two months after my pct. Whats funny is the gyno went away when I was on cycle this last time then flared up again after my pct. I have reports of letro working but surgery is usually the best option if you have the 5,000 to fork out
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    What was you using when the lumps went away?

    Im really interested in this because I have had my lumps checked by a doctor and a specialist and they both tell me it is normal breast tissue, which again is normal, even in men. Obviously we are all different but i am keen to know how many of us guys have this tissue.
    I have never had sensitive nipples. It feels more like a gland behind the nipple but not connected to it. Its only sensitive when I press it against the chest muscle. Its crazy it bothers me so much as it isnt noticable to others but the thoughts of it growing scares the **** out of me. Especially when on cycle.

    What is classed as normal for the mammory gland in males?
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    Quote Originally Posted by panjo View Post
    What was you using when the lumps went away?

    Im really interested in this because I have had my lumps checked by a doctor and a specialist and they both tell me it is normal breast tissue, which again is normal, even in men. Obviously we are all different but i am keen to know how many of us guys have this tissue.
    I have never had sensitive nipples. It feels more like a gland behind the nipple but not connected to it. Its only sensitive when I press it against the chest muscle. Its crazy it bothers me so much as it isnt noticable to others but the thoughts of it growing scares the **** out of me. Especially when on cycle.

    What is classed as normal for the mammory gland in males?
    I was on a stack of mdrol/pplex with it went away then used nolvadex for my pct which kept it away but then estrogen rebound occured and the lumps have stayed since then. My lumps are painful when i press against my nipple but I don't notice the gland when looking in the mirror and no one else has noticed the gyno but it still bothers me. Far as the doctor saying its normal thats true to a certain degree. As men we do have a small amount of breast tissue but when we use these designer steroids it causes an uptake of estrogen when our natural test is shutdown this causes the abnormal tissue mass behind the nipple. Did you tell the doctor you used steroids? The doctor has to be informed of all variables when he gives you a diagnosis
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    Unless you have a good relationship with your doc, don't tell him your using AAS, incase he puts it on record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panjo View Post
    I pretty much had exactly the same experience with X Tren.
    So do you guys think the gyno caused by the tren will be agrevated by other compounds that I had previously ran with no problem, in paticular M drol and P plex?
    IMO, if you have gyno, you're going to be at greater risk for aggravating gyno than if you didn't have it to begin with. However, everyone reacts differently to each compound so you might not have any problems still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bashman View Post
    Unless you have a good relationship with your doc, don't tell him your using AAS, incase he puts it on record.
    Doctors are sworn in by taking the Hippocratic oath where they will not divulge information gained from a patient due to ethics. They are not going to call the cops because you use gear. Why would you lie to the doctor when you can save time and money to be honest without fear of going to jail.
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    I used X-tren and Tren Xtreme off and on for the last few years, typically around 90 to 120 mg. I got the hard lumps under the nipples from this, but messing around with letro and nolva made them go away.

    I just did a 12 week test e cycle at 500 mg/week and added in X-tren for the first 4 weeks. The hard lumps came back along with larger nipples and seemed like the lower/outside of my breast was growing. I was using arimidex, but switched to letro when this started to happen around week 8. I have been using Caber at 0.75mg/week since week 12 and I will drop the letro at the end of this week (week 13) and add in aromasin. PCT with toremifene will follow a few days after introducing the aromasin.

    Between the letro and Caber, i have seen some good results as far as reducing the hard lump and shrinking the nipple size and the growth on the bottom/outside of the peck has reduced. Hopefully the results continue into PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blakeout View Post
    I used X-tren and Tren Xtreme off and on for the last few years, typically around 90 to 120 mg. I got the hard lumps under the nipples from this, but messing around with letro and nolva made them go away.

    I just did a 12 week test e cycle at 500 mg/week and added in X-tren for the first 4 weeks. The hard lumps came back along with larger nipples and seemed like the lower/outside of my breast was growing. I was using arimidex, but switched to letro when this started to happen around week 8. I have been using Caber at 0.75mg/week since week 12 and I will drop the letro at the end of this week (week 13) and add in aromasin. PCT with toremifene will follow a few days after introducing the aromasin.

    Between the letro and Caber, i have seen some good results as far as reducing the hard lump and shrinking the nipple size and the growth on the bottom/outside of the peck has reduced. Hopefully the results continue into PCT.
    Doesn't it irritate you that you had the lumps go away only for them to come back with a vengeance? Speaking from experience, I am torn about weather the cycles are worth the side effects especially the gyno. I mean if the lumps didn't feel like a dagger in my nipple when I touched them it wouldn't be an issue now if I could see huge breasts then I would have to find a foreign doctor and hope he isn't the maniac from hostel
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    I had gyno removed from juice induced cycles about 6 yrs ago. Then stupid me ran tren ace a few times in the last couple years only to give myself gyno again under one nip. I ran the **** out of pharma grade letro and while it reduced the size it still exist! Don't believe the hype that letro is the cure all, cause it isn't a true statement!
    Worth mentioning, I ran p5p, L-dopa and 6 bromo during the test e/tren ace cycle.. When symptoms came on I should have dropped the tren but I pushed it and got what I deserve.

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    I agree, it is a gamble we take and a price we have to be willing to pay.
    I have read lots of research and in the medical community it is generally understood as far as I am aware that surgery is the only real answer for removeing hard lumps (true gyno).
    I did tell my doctor I had used X tren and he was totally unaware of what it was, even when I stuck the label under his nose.

    In my experience it is very unlikely a Doctor in the UK will offer drugs such as Nolva / caber or letro. They tend to opt for offering advice such as discontinuing what ever is causeing the problem and haveing a follow up appointment. I suppose they see all body types and although to us body conscious a little gyno is a major concern to a doctor it really is not a issue for concern. Have a look around at the general population and you will see that loads of men have odd shape breasts.
    I also was refered to the breast clinic for a final check and again, as far as they was concern it is perfectly normal. I did ask about haveing them removed and was told the only problem is that once removed it can cause a slight sinking of the nipple. Based on the lumps not being visible it is prob best to just leave them alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedfate View Post
    Doctors are sworn in by taking the Hippocratic oath where they will not divulge information gained from a patient due to ethics. They are not going to call the cops because you use gear. Why would you lie to the doctor when you can save time and money to be honest without fear of going to jail.
    He won't call the cops, he'll put it on your medical record, voiding your insurance or increasing the premium paid.
  

  
 

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