Who has gyno lumps?
- 02-18-2011, 08:41 AM
Who has gyno lumps?
Just looking to do a little research.
I have used a few ph products epi / mdrol / phera / d plex / Tren.
I never had a problem until a cycle of X-tren which left me with lumps behind the nipples. Prior to this I had used others listed and never had a problem. So I guess my question is will the tren caused gyno be a problem in the future with ph,s that previously did not cause a problem?
Has anybody got experience of running a ph after they have had a prob with gyno and if so did it get any worse?. Obviously i would keep well clear of 19nor products but should running others make the problem worse?
- 02-18-2011, 10:34 AM
I get little ones when i cycle and they disappear in pct. And xtren /diennolone has a deffinate skill in giving people gyno
02-18-2011, 11:02 AM
02-18-2011, 11:07 AM
I have bad gyno, and after I ran the simple Trifecta stack, it flared up pretty bad. Im actually looking into surgery now, because it is out of hand.
02-19-2011, 05:26 AM
my mom and sister have huge gynos... I can see gynos thru their shirt and im embarrassed to go out with them
02-19-2011, 06:14 AM
02-19-2011, 05:26 PM
02-19-2011, 05:33 PM
I ran x-tren at 120mg :-O, and got a lump under my right nipple and fluid too! Not supposed to happen, right? Was told it was prolactin induced. All I had on hand was a bottle of the old Ergo 6-oxo. Not supposed to help, right? It did. Took 300mg a day and it was gone in three weeks.
Tren-x; never again at that dosage.....
02-19-2011, 07:45 PM
"Trenbolone, TREN, Nandrolone can cause gyno because they lack a potent 5a-reduced metabolite (dihydronandrolone is weaker than dihydrotestosterone). (15) If you are worried about gyno from progestational steroids you should consider boosting your 5a-reduced metabolites during the cycle (mentioned above). This can avoid most if not all of the gyno problems associated with progestational hormones. I should mention here that aromatase inhibitors alone (AIís) will not help prevent gyno from progestational compounds. It is the antagonistic action of 5a-reduced hormones that is required."
02-19-2011, 11:34 PM
02-20-2011, 05:59 AM
I pretty much had exactly the same experience with X Tren.
So do you guys think the gyno caused by the tren will be agrevated by other compounds that I had previously ran with no problem, in paticular M drol and P plex?
02-20-2011, 01:26 PM
02-20-2011, 02:49 PM
I have lumps under both my nipples after a stack of mdrol and pplex at high dosages, i ran a good pct but it wasn't long enough because I had delayed gyno two months after my pct. Whats funny is the gyno went away when I was on cycle this last time then flared up again after my pct. I have reports of letro working but surgery is usually the best option if you have the 5,000 to fork out
02-21-2011, 08:47 AM
What was you using when the lumps went away?
Im really interested in this because I have had my lumps checked by a doctor and a specialist and they both tell me it is normal breast tissue, which again is normal, even in men. Obviously we are all different but i am keen to know how many of us guys have this tissue.
I have never had sensitive nipples. It feels more like a gland behind the nipple but not connected to it. Its only sensitive when I press it against the chest muscle. Its crazy it bothers me so much as it isnt noticable to others but the thoughts of it growing scares the **** out of me. Especially when on cycle.
What is classed as normal for the mammory gland in males?
02-21-2011, 05:19 PM
02-21-2011, 07:27 PM
Unless you have a good relationship with your doc, don't tell him your using AAS, incase he puts it on record.
02-21-2011, 08:37 PM
02-21-2011, 09:17 PM
02-22-2011, 01:20 AM
I used X-tren and Tren Xtreme off and on for the last few years, typically around 90 to 120 mg. I got the hard lumps under the nipples from this, but messing around with letro and nolva made them go away.
I just did a 12 week test e cycle at 500 mg/week and added in X-tren for the first 4 weeks. The hard lumps came back along with larger nipples and seemed like the lower/outside of my breast was growing. I was using arimidex, but switched to letro when this started to happen around week 8. I have been using Caber at 0.75mg/week since week 12 and I will drop the letro at the end of this week (week 13) and add in aromasin. PCT with toremifene will follow a few days after introducing the aromasin.
Between the letro and Caber, i have seen some good results as far as reducing the hard lump and shrinking the nipple size and the growth on the bottom/outside of the peck has reduced. Hopefully the results continue into PCT.
02-22-2011, 01:40 AM
02-22-2011, 02:55 AM
I had gyno removed from juice induced cycles about 6 yrs ago. Then stupid me ran tren ace a few times in the last couple years only to give myself gyno again under one nip. I ran the **** out of pharma grade letro and while it reduced the size it still exist! Don't believe the hype that letro is the cure all, cause it isn't a true statement!
Worth mentioning, I ran p5p, L-dopa and 6 bromo during the test e/tren ace cycle.. When symptoms came on I should have dropped the tren but I pushed it and got what I deserve.
Its a gamble boys and u gotta be willing to pay the price!!!
Arnold SchwarzeneggerOriginally Posted by Arnold Schwarzenegger
02-22-2011, 04:36 AM
I agree, it is a gamble we take and a price we have to be willing to pay.
I have read lots of research and in the medical community it is generally understood as far as I am aware that surgery is the only real answer for removeing hard lumps (true gyno).
I did tell my doctor I had used X tren and he was totally unaware of what it was, even when I stuck the label under his nose.
In my experience it is very unlikely a Doctor in the UK will offer drugs such as Nolva / caber or letro. They tend to opt for offering advice such as discontinuing what ever is causeing the problem and haveing a follow up appointment. I suppose they see all body types and although to us body conscious a little gyno is a major concern to a doctor it really is not a issue for concern. Have a look around at the general population and you will see that loads of men have odd shape breasts.
I also was refered to the breast clinic for a final check and again, as far as they was concern it is perfectly normal. I did ask about haveing them removed and was told the only problem is that once removed it can cause a slight sinking of the nipple. Based on the lumps not being visible it is prob best to just leave them alone.
02-22-2011, 06:26 AM
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