MOHN sounds like it may have more effect on body recomp, but I'm concerned about its effect on birth control. Nothing logically seems to say there should be a problem ... but I have a nagging suspicion that MOHN (and all OH compounds) have at least a minute amount of anti-estrogen properties. Anyone care to call me an idiot and make me feel better.
Dr. D I'd value your opinion on this.
Your correct. When you put an electrophile (like OH or a halogen) on the 4 position of an androgen, it makes for a good anti-e. Here is a quick summary of the androgens I have experience with first hand in ref. to women:
Anadrol 12.5-25mg/d for up to 2 month
Halotestin 5-10mg/d for up to 1 month
Test Enanthate/Cyp 200mg/wk for 2 weeks
4-AD cyp 250mg/wk for 2 weeks
19-nordiol cyp 600mg/wk for 3 weeks
19-nordiol & dione 500-1000mg/d for several months
DHEA 200+mg/d for months
M4OHN 8mg/d for 2 weeks
5-AD 250mg/d for 1 week
1,4-AD 250mg/d for 1 week
M1T 1.25-2.5mg/d for 1 week
Letro 0.1-0.2mg/d for months
Provera Depo @ 6months
Ortho-TriCyclin for years
None of these patterns resulted in long term masculinization. Surprisingly, DHEA seems to be the harshest in reguard to this. Estrus cycle is modified by all but M4OHN, but experience is very limited still with this compound. Strength gains were only signifigant with 19-nor cyp. No signifigant fat loss noted with any of them except maybe Halo. No effect on breast size observed with any of them. Periods can be completely aborted with most of these at high doses from day 20 on. I have no data w/ MD or M5, but these should be used very short term if at all in women. PCT is not required with women, unless they are not on BC. If they are on BC, then suppression is a good thing. Mood is negatively effected with the 19nor steroids. Aggresion is noticable with all upon prolonged dosing. If you have specific questions, just PM me. I have years of data and observation and it's just too much to put here.