2ND CYCLE ANY GOOD
- 02-11-2011, 04:51 PM
2ND CYCLE ANY GOOD
I just wanna know some input on this cycle
First Cycle was: 500mg Test E EW 10 Weeks (Last YR)
Training: 10+ yrs (since 18) 45-1hr 4x week Split with 20 min cardio, 2x off days light cardio 40min, 1 off day.
Stats: 6'1" 228Lbs 13%BF
Goal : Reach around 244lbs and stay at 13%BF if i go up a few %, i dont mind.
Diet: Is on Point, 2800Cal, no cheat meals, supp with whey protein, omega 3-6-9ALA
This is the 2nd cycle I wanna do:
Test E 500mg EW 1-10
Adex .50mg ED 1-10
Deca 500mg EW (split 250mg on Mon/Thurs) 1-10
Winny 50mg ED 8-12
PCT - 1 day After last winny tab
Clomid - 100/100/50/50
1-) Will I reach my goal
2-) Can I use clen or ECA or OTC fat Burner for week 1-7 before winny
3-) Any suggestion
4-) Is PCT timing Good? (I cant get Nolva, so im stuck with Clomid)
5-) Im worried about the Bloat, on 1st cycle was a lil bit annoying so this time im adding adex. Will it take care of it?
Im open to any opinions. Thank you for your time.
- 02-11-2011, 05:39 PM
You might want to think about extending the cycle if you're deadset on the Deca usage. Use HCG if you can get it, and I assume you can. Don't use nolva with deca, so you're good to go with clomid. Adex won't take care of all the bloat. You need to play with the dosage to see where your body starts reacting to the AI. Clen is fine as a fatburner. Did you say you were cutting or bulking or recomping?
Here's a great article from Matt Porter on cutting vs. bulking while on cycle.Celtic Labs Rep
- 02-11-2011, 05:43 PM
your deca doseing time frime is to small deca should be run no less than 16 weeks imo
if you want nandrolone(deca) that kicks in quick- get nandrolone phenylpropinate or NPP it is a QUCIK acting deca
or you could just do dbol at 50mgs for the frist 5 wks
but your caloric intake is low dude- real low, i would up to at least 3500
you wont gain much bf if any if your diet is cleanTest e/dbol/epi/winnie
02-12-2011, 11:13 AM
Well, I wanna do a clean bulk and not put as much fat while gaining
Yes 2800kal is what I eat now, but on the gear Ima bump it to 3300kal
Should I just drop Deca, and winny?
And do :
Test 250mg EW 1-15
EQ 300mg EW 1-15
Proviron 50 mg ED 13-17
Adex .5mg ED 3-17
PCT: Clomid 100/100/50/50
HCG ?? (never understood it completely, but have heard of it)
1-Is this a better option? Will I get bloat from minimal doses, this is my 2nd cycle
2- If i decide to get HCG what would be the doses and when to administer?
Any Ideas would be good, Thank you
02-12-2011, 11:21 AM
week 1-15 test e 500mg
week1-15 eq 500mg ew
week 10-16 winny 75mgs ed
week 1-15 test e 500mg ew
week 1-15 deca 400mg ew
week 10-16 Winny
IMPORTANT! : either way whichever cycle you do you will have to let the esters from eq or deca clear your system WHICH MEANS START PCT 3-4 WEEKS AFTER YOUR LAST DECA OR EQ INJECTION
hcg should be usd at 250mcg 2 x a week from week 2-15
do not use hcg in pct
if you have adex i doubt you will bloat
02-12-2011, 11:51 AM
Thanks for the reply
Ima take your advice
Test 500mg EW 1-16
Deca 400mg EW 1-15
Winny 50mg ED 11-17
Adex .5mg ED 3-17
OTC - HCG 250mcg on Monday and again on Thursday?
PCT - Clomid start , next day after last winny tab 17-21 100/100/50/50
1- Is the HCH dosage correct (Monday and Thursday 250mcg each day, is ok?
2- When i start PCT Deca and test will be clear from my system
3- Can I add Proviron, if yes, when? (I heard is estrogen blocker and frees up test in body)
02-12-2011, 03:42 PM
1. HCG doseage is perfect
2. When is your last winny tab? In the outline it sais week 11-17 but then i read further down it would be week 21. If it is week 21 then yes your pct would be perfect to start after last winny tab deca and test would be clear of the system.
3. I dont know **** about proviron but if you have adex your good for estrogen, also deca can cause prolactin issues- get some cabergoline aka caber i will tell you how to dose it- otherwise your **** wont work till deca is out of ur system
02-12-2011, 04:07 PM
You've got some really good genes. I wish I could make it to 228 on 2800 cals a day. I'm 6'0 so I'd settle for 220. I'm scarfing down 4500 with 625 mg's Test E and am struggling to break 215.
I'd start the arimidex at .5 EOD and go from there. Other than that it looks good. Best of luck.
02-14-2011, 11:26 AM
02-14-2011, 11:56 AM
Thank you, sometimes i feel small next to the vets. It was hard going up, I remember getting 8lbs a month sometimes 4 or 3....i tired of the struggle but kepT going natty
On my first cycle, it was like a gift and grew, i gain like 25lbs in 10 week (ate like 4000kal)and lost like 5lbs
during pct...ever since ive been gaining weight but real slow, like a snail (i know my calories isnt enough, you guys say to bump it more, but I dont want to gain bf%, I wanna keep it low as possible)
schwellington id aprreciate for all the info and help you've given me.
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