First Test cycle with Mdrol/Hdrol LOG

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  1. First Test cycle with Mdrol/Hdrol LOG


    with a lot of research and the help from crazychemist and unrealmachine i am ready for my first test cycle!

    my background:
    competitive Natural Bodybuilder for 4 years. I have won debute, novice and open class. Its now time to step my game up in order to compete with the big boys down in NPC FL. I am 24 years old, and have for the last year tried 2 6 week oral cycles of Hdrol and Mdrol. Both were good, but not to my satisfaction. I need to raise the bar. I have a BS in kinesiology and nutrition so i understand most of the chemistry going on with this cycle. My future plans are to run 3 18 week cycles, this being my first, and then getting back on stage late 2012. I will be logging everything from nutrition, emotions, body stats, lifts and supplements. Pics will come later.

    everything has been ordered, i will begin mid Feb.

    Now, the cycle will be the following:

    2 weeks prior to starting: CEL Cycle Assist
    Week 1-4: CEL M-DROL 10/20/30/30
    Week 1-12: Test E 250 Mondays & Thursday Mornings
    Week 3-12: hCG 250iu Mondays & Thursday Evening
    Week 9-14: CEL H-DROL 50/75/75/75/100/100
    Week 14: Clomid @200 for 4 days, & @150 for 3days
    Week 15-17: Clomid 100/50/25
    Week 14-17: Sustain Alpha & Lean Extreme

    additional supps that will be throughout the cycle are creatine mono for post workout, pre workout N.O, and intra workout Xtend, beta Alanine for pre workout and breakfast, multi for breakfast.

    i hope to have people follow along this journey.....it should get interesting


  2. looks smart and well thought out. let's see some before and after pics!
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  3. aight bro - looking forward to seeing you tear this one up. Have some adex on hand thru out cycle too
    Back.... for real this time

  4. Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    aight bro - looking forward to seeing you tear this one up. Have some adex on hand thru out cycle too
    Adex?
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  5. in before someone says wrong section


    oops...

  6. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    in before someone says wrong section


    oops...
    Sorry, but when I start the cycle and log we can move the thread.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    in before someone says wrong section


    oops...
    whatev - hdrol mdrol PH DS AAS - lets see the OP tear it up. I wanna see awesomeness.


    Quote Originally Posted by itsgroll View Post
    Adex?
    Adex is an aromatase inhibitor (AI). Test of any kind will convert to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. Essentially the aromatase hugs the test and when it leaves the test has been converted to estrogen. Introduce a ton of test and the body responds by making a ton of aromatase enzyme, converting all your new testosterone to estrogen

    So you take something, a molecule (an AI), that likes to give the aromatase enzyme an even bigger hug than the test. If the AI is already there, hugging the aromatase, then the aromatase cant hug your test and, by extension, cant convert it to estro. Got it?

    EDIT: Although too much estro will yield negative side effects, no estro yields negative side effects too. So you want to titrate your dosage of an AI to moderate your estro and test levels to optimal levels.
    Back.... for real this time

  8. Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    whatev - hdrol mdrol PH DS AAS - lets see the OP tear it up. I wanna see awesomeness.
















































































































  9. hmm dunno if i missed it earlier, but clomid and SA should start week 15, when halodrol is done
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    hmm dunno if i missed it earlier, but clomid and SA should start week 15, when halodrol is done
    Your right, that was a typo. Good eyes!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    hmm dunno if i missed it earlier, but clomid and SA should start week 15, when halodrol is done
    missed that too - no gap needed between end of the cycle and start of pct when ur running something during those 2 weeks of clearance.
    Back.... for real this time

  12. Up the h drol

  13. Quote Originally Posted by gymrat827 View Post
    Up the h drol
    hes got the hdrol left over and he just using it while the test e clears out
    Back.... for real this time

  14. subbed

  15. I'm doing the exact same thing except using Proto-max for a finisher. My PCT looks a little different too, but so far I'm at the end of week 4 and I'm up 15 lbs. good luck bro.

  16. wuts pct?
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

  17. Quote Originally Posted by indianballer View Post
    I'm doing the exact same thing except using Proto-max for a finisher. My PCT looks a little different too, but so far I'm at the end of week 4 and I'm up 15 lbs. good luck bro.
    Great I'm excited...I've been giving the hCG a second thought though, I might skip that. Are you including that in your cycle?

  18. Question....why r u starting HCG on week 3? I'm not sure but I thought HCG would start day 4 or so during week 1 and ran same weeks as the Test (i.e. weeks1-10)? Can someone please explain/clarify...

  19. Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    wuts pct?
    pre creatine treatment. duh.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    pre creatine treatment. duh.
    damn I need to research that

    THANKS BRO!
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

  21. Quote Originally Posted by itsgroll View Post
    Great I'm excited...I've been giving the hCG a second thought though, I might skip that. Are you including that in your cycle?
    i have 5000iu's of it on hand but I'm holding off until I really need it. I'd rather not use it as I've heard it can aggravate gyno and I'm trying not to use my arimidex unless I absolutely need that as well. I'm going for pure bulk so estrogen is my friend unless it becomes an issue.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by indianballer View Post
    i have 5000iu's of it on hand but I'm holding off until I really need it. I'd rather not use it as I've heard it can aggravate gyno and I'm trying not to use my arimidex unless I absolutely need that as well. I'm going for pure bulk so estrogen is my friend unless it becomes an issue.
    what would qualify for really needing it?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by itsgroll View Post
    what would qualify for really needing it?
    using steroids.

    same question could be asked about PCT & what would qualify for needing it.

    it's like wiping your azz, you dont "need" to do it, but i'd strongly recomend it, esp if your going on a date....

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    using steroids.

    same question could be asked about PCT & what would qualify for needing it.

    it's like wiping your azz, you dont "need" to do it, but i'd strongly recomend it, esp if your going on a date....
    yes i know, but i was wandering why someone else said they were taking test e and orals and said they would only take hCG is they really need it.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    using steroids.

    same question could be asked about PCT & what would qualify for needing it.

    it's like wiping your azz, you dont "need" to do it, but i'd strongly recomend it, esp if your going on a date....
    actually...smart ass, if your so ****y, whats the scientific reason WHY you HAVE TO TAKE hCG if on steroids?

    http://www.steroid.com/HCG.php

  26. I honestly don't understand what's so terrible about having small balls for a few months. As long as I'm producing semen during sex, I'm not worried about it. I've read too many logs where as soon as they took their first dose of hcg they're nipples started acting up and they had to use an AI. I am completely against killing off estrogen for this cycle unless it becomes a problem.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by itsgroll View Post
    yes i know, but i was wandering why someone else said they were taking test e and orals and said they would only take hCG is they really need it.
    Quote Originally Posted by itsgroll View Post
    actually...smart ass, if your so ****y, whats the scientific reason WHY you HAVE TO TAKE hCG if on steroids?

    HCG human chorionic gonadotropin Anabolic SteroidnbspProfiles - Steroid . com


    I'm not even going to answer that question for you. I think you need counseling. but i did neg you.


  28. Quote Originally Posted by indianballer View Post
    I honestly don't understand what's so terrible about having small balls for a few months. As long as I'm producing semen during sex, I'm not worried about it. I've read too many logs where as soon as they took their first dose of hcg they're nipples started acting up and they had to use an AI. I am completely against killing off estrogen for this cycle unless it becomes a problem.
    it's a personal preference. some like to use it on cycle, others use it post cycle. it just depends on what method works best for you.

  29. itsgroll - so what do you say buddy, why are you starting HCG in week 3 and not week 1-day 4?? I'm curious b/c I'm researching my first Test E Cycle. Can we get some advice from somebody with experience using HCG??
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