GLHF Cut Cycle Log - Prop/Ace/Win

[GLHF]

Hi guys. I hope u enjoy my log as ill be going under probably the hardest training in my life so far. My goal is to be 190-200lb at 8%. Starting my cut im 225 around 16-17%.
Cycle:
pro- 75mg/day ED 1-8 possibly bump up
ace- 50mg/day ED 1-8 possibly bump up
winstrol- 50mg/day ED 1-8
clen 60/80/80/100/100/120/120 /day weeks 1,3,5,7
t3 ramp to 50mcg/day 1-8
*been on cjc dac for 2 months now and will stay on it thruout cycle and PCT. been dosing it at 500mcg/week.

pct
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 150/50/50
test booster

and mayb IF everything goes as planed i might do insulin + ghrp6 starting 3rd week PCT

Diet: low carb diet as i have used keto in the past, it worked but was flat/weaK. bout 2.3k to start, and will drop 200cal every 2 weeks or as needed. 60%pro, 20% carbs, 20% fat

workout: FST-7 training
Chest + Triceps + 30min LISS
Legs +20min LISS
OFF 30-60min LISS
Back + Biceps +20min LISS
Chest + Shoulders + 20min LISS
OFF
OFF
Back + biceps
Shoulders
OFF
Chest + triceps
Legs
Repeat

kind of doing each muscle group 1x week and 1 muscle group 2x week. Workouts are like 2 compounds 3x8-15, 1-2 iso 3x12-15, 1 iso 7x15
cardio pretty much LISS everyday, mayb only sunday no cardio. 20-30min right after workouts or 30-60min on OFF days.
Abs ill do 100+ situps a day everyday to begin with. will add more later weeks.


and thats it. Wish me luck guys.

 

[GLHF]

90min Pre WO
60 prop, 40ace, 250mcg cjcdac, 60mcg clen, 25mcg t3, 50mg win

20min Pre WO
monster

Chest/Tri

bb flat
135x12
185x12
185x12
225x6
225x6

incline
135x12 4sets

cables from the top 40lb x12 3sets
cables from the bottom 30lbs x12 3sets

120lb tri push downs 3x15
85lb skull crusher 3x12
1 arm tricep extentions 20lb x20, x15, x10, x10

7x12 cables from top 30lbs

30min LISS
100 crunches

havent had this kinda pump in a long time.. felt really weak on all lifts. last week i did 275x5 on flat and 205x8 on incline and full stack on the tri press downs (150lb)...

this morning 232lbs.

 

[chocolatemilk]

Subbed bro

 

[GLHF]

Day 2

60 prop
40 tren
60clen
50t3

Back

WGPD
80x15
100x12
100x12
120x12
120x12

DB row
80x10
80x10

reverse fly
3x15

cable row
100x15 3 sets

reverse grip pull downs
80x10
100x10
100x10

stiff arm pull downs
60x7x12 ss with 1 hand side pull downs

30min LISS
60 crunches in sauna

it was a ****ty workout, i didnt feel that good. went to the gym with a headache (tren????) felt weak. probably because of the reduced calorie intake. ill get better tho, thats how my last cut started....

 

[chocolatemilk]

How are the injections going? Did you test out subQ or just went IM?

 

[GLHF]

How are the injections going? Did you test out subQ or just went IM?

im going IM. i dont wanna do subq because it will take longer to kick in. wats the point of using prop and ace esters if im gonna gonna get theyr effects. might as well use enathate than..

 

[GLHF]

Day 3

30pull ups/chin ups
light preacher curl ss with push ups 3x15

60min LISS
sauna for 10min


50g whey + banana
chicken + rice
chicken + rice
wo
50g whey
1lb steak

 

[GLHF]

Day 4

leg curl 2 45s 3x12 warm up..
leg press, 6plates each side x20
30min LISS
sauna with 50crunches


real legs workout- saturday.


sides: i cant sleep, my heart pounds hard at night and cant fall asleep. im dead during most part of the day cuz of that. im geting some crazy dreams. theyr very realistic. and i almost never dream....it has to be something. i kinda look leaner, i feel like my veins are getting bigger. a little headache most of the day. definetly i talk more **** than usual..

 

[unc21]

Day 4

leg curl 2 45s 3x12 warm up..
leg press, 6plates each side x20
30min LISS
sauna with 50crunches


real legs workout- saturday.


sides: i cant sleep, my heart pounds hard at night and cant fall asleep. im dead during most part of the day cuz of that. im geting some crazy dreams. theyr very realistic. and i almost never dream....it has to be something. i kinda look leaner, i feel like my veins are getting bigger. a little headache most of the day. definetly i talk more **** than usual..

Its from the tren

 

[GLHF]

Day 5

Shoulders/Biceps

Db Press 50x3x12 it was light..but ther was some pain in my wrist and shoulder, didnt wanna push more

bb press 90x3x12 same thing ^

close grip bicep curl 25s (curl bar-35lbs) 3x12
db alternating 3x12
preacher 3x10
tri push downs bar 3x12
tri push downs cable 2x12
cable side raises 4x12

20min LISS
10min sauna wet

 

[GLHF]

Its from the tren

yea bro...but im not feeling any of that crazy strength increase and lean gains yet.. but im hoping for the best. its still only day 5 out of 56 lol

 

[GLHF]

Day 6

70 decline sit up
40min LISS
15min sauna




3eggs + 3 egg whites + 10 ham slices (100cal, 20g pro)
50g whey
chicken + rice
50g whey
chicken + rice
4egg whites + 2 eggs + 10 ham slices

 

[chrisrob05]

That headache may be from dehydration-The sauna can dehydrate an athlete quickly.....I'm just saying this because I had a headache that wouldn't go away for like 2 weeks from dehydration-Make sure that your urine is clear but not to the point of peeing every 15 min

 

[timmmah]

I'm in, are you taking clen first thing in the morning?

 

[mh625]

Im in for this one gonna be starting a test prop, winny cycle in about a month so Im excited to see how it goes.

 

[GLHF]

That headache may be from dehydration-The sauna can dehydrate an athlete quickly.....I'm just saying this because I had a headache that wouldn't go away for like 2 weeks from dehydration-Make sure that your urine is clear but not to the point of peeing every 15 min

the thing is..i get a headache usually around morning/mid day/before gym. once i hit the gym, its fine. i also drink a monster before the gym....mayb that takes care of it?? idkk man

and my pee is a little yellow. I guess its kinda hard to get it crystal from all the **** im taking.

I'm in, are you taking clen first thing in the morning?

no. i take it like 1hour before gym. altho i should take it inthe morning. i really dont think theres a much difference either way.

 

[GLHF]

1/23

diet:

6eggs + ham
50g pro
2 ww breads + ham
6eggs + 2 cheese + ham

low calories day... i guess it was aight


1/24

chest/tri/shoulder
bb flat
incline
decline
side raises
front raises
rope pushdowns
over head extentions

30min liss

diet:
50g pro
chicken + rice
chicken + rise
wo
50g whey + 2tbsp PB
1lb steak + salad

I TIHNK I ATE TOO MUCH. I WAS STARVING AFTER GYM AND ATE ALL THAT. IM SCARED. is that too much? idk im becoming siko.

 

[GLHF]

bad bad bad bad bad bad diet yesterday. i was 229.2 this moring. WTF!!! i need to be under 10% in 6 weeks.

change in diet



50g whey = 260cal 6g carb, 50g protein
Chicken rice: split into 2 servings Calories: 630, Fat: 20.5g, Carbs: 63g, Protein: 52g

workout
50g whey + 2tsp PB (200cal) = 460cal, 15g carb, 57g protein
10eggs (6egg whites, 4 eggs) + 2 slices cheese = 660cal, 60g pro

totals: 2010 cal, 215g pro, ~110c

back biceps cardio in a little.

im uping the cardio to 30min post workout, and 60+ on off days. also im gonna do a few sets of declines after every workout, and crunches inbetween sets.

 

[timmmah]

Start doing two muscle groups a day in super-sets. You are on dude, the whole reason to take steroids is the recovery factor, train each body part every 4 days at least.
A great side-effect of super-setting body parts is the raise in heart rate, you'll get extra cardio this way as well.

And take the clen first thing in the morning, not as a pre-workout. It takes time to open the bronchial tubes, the reason for clens long half-life.

 

[GLHF]

Start doing two muscle groups a day in super-sets. You are on dude, the whole reason to take steroids is the recovery factor, train each body part every 4 days at least.
A great side-effect of super-setting body parts is the raise in heart rate, you'll get extra cardio this way as well.

And take the clen first thing in the morning, not as a pre-workout. It takes time to open the bronchial tubes, the reason for clens long half-life.

well i was on a low rep, 2-3min rest, routine until 2 weeks ago. im gonna finish this week with reps of 10-12. and move onto GVT for the remaining 6weeks.

 

[timmmah]

GVT?

 

[GLHF]

GVT?

german volume training

its 10x10, example:
incline bb ss with bb row 10x10 60sec rest

its chest/back, legs, off, shoulders/arms, off, repeat.



sooo its gonna be either GVT, or if u got a better routine that u can give me.

 

[timmmah]

I suggest doing two different body parts a day. One would be a heavier more focused part for that day, and the other higher reps and not compound movements.
Fr example:
Day 1 Chest (heavy) Back (light)
Day 2 Legs (heavy) Shoulders (light)
Day 3 Bi's and tri's and an emphasis on abs (30 min)
Day 4 Back (heavy) Chest (light)
Day 5 Shoulders (heavy) Legs (light)
Day 6 Bi's and tri's and an emphasis on abs (30 min)

And repeat
When I say Heavy, I mean Heavy BB bench, Squats, Dead-lifts, Push-press.
When I say light, I mean High-rep incline DB, Lunges, one-arm DB row, Lateral Side and Rear delts.

Day 1 could go something like:
Superset Flat bench BB with seated row
Superset Incline BB with One arm DB row
Superset Decline BB with Lat pulldowns
Superset Cable crossovers with face-pulls

The point is that one day you work something at a low rep range with heavy weight, and the other with a high-rep range at a lower weight. I usually spend 45 min- 1 hour lifting then abs, calves and cardio for another 45 min or so.
Just an example, good luck

 

[GLHF]

Day 9

Back/bi

Rack deadlift
bb row
bb shrug
wide grip pull downs to front
wide grip pull downs to back
cable row

incline bench curl
bb preacher
db alternating
some more random curls

35min liss
chilled in the sauna (if that makes any sense sure)
diet

50g whey
rice/chiekn
rice/chiken
wo
50g whey + 1 serving pb
6egg whites + 4 whole eggs + 2 slices cheese



i can see some of my veins were bigger than usual. nothing really big tho. im starting to look better. in 4-5 days i should be able to see the top 4abs..
i got a big event to go to on in beggining of march, need to look very good for that.

 

[unc21]

I suggest doing two different body parts a day. One would be a heavier more focused part for that day, and the other higher reps and not compound movements.
Fr example:
Day 1 Chest (heavy) Back (light)
Day 2 Legs (heavy) Shoulders (light)
Day 3 Bi's and tri's and an emphasis on abs (30 min)
Day 4 Back (heavy) Chest (light)
Day 5 Shoulders (heavy) Legs (light)
Day 6 Bi's and tri's and an emphasis on abs (30 min)

And repeat
When I say Heavy, I mean Heavy BB bench, Squats, Dead-lifts, Push-press.
When I say light, I mean High-rep incline DB, Lunges, one-arm DB row, Lateral Side and Rear delts.

Day 1 could go something like:
Superset Flat bench BB with seated row
Superset Incline BB with One arm DB row
Superset Decline BB with Lat pulldowns
Superset Cable crossovers with face-pulls

The point is that one day you work something at a low rep range with heavy weight, and the other with a high-rep range at a lower weight. I usually spend 45 min- 1 hour lifting then abs, calves and cardio for another 45 min or so.
Just an example, good luck

Regardless if you're on or not, thats way too much. Yes your protein synthesis is increases while on, but you can still overtrain, steroids arent magic. Rest is just as vital whether on or not. Muscles still need time to recover. Once you start pushing a good amount of weight, time off is your best friend.

 

[GLHF]

Regardless if you're on or not, thats way too much. Yes your protein synthesis is increases while on, but you can still overtrain, steroids arent magic. Rest is just as vital whether on or not. Muscles still need time to recover. Once you start pushing a good amount of weight, time off is your best friend.

i agree. i dont like that program.

i do hit muscles a lot tho. exmaple this week:

chest/delts/tri
back/bi
cardio + pullups, dips, push ups, abs
legs
chest/back/delts/biceps/tri DC for all itll be like flat bber, bb row, shoulder press, db curl, rope push downs
cardio + body weight
off

 

[EasyEJL]

the ED pinning gets old fast, you run out of sites so quickly and are stuck with a choice of some of the really crappy ones. What are you at 1.5ml of oil based and 1ml of water?

 

[GLHF]

1/26




**** load of different ab exercise

35min fast walk


50g whey
2 chicken breas + brocoli + other green ****
2 ww bread + 15 ham slices
50g whey
6 white + 4 whole

the ED pinning gets old fast, you run out of sites so quickly and are stuck with a choice of some of the really crappy ones. What are you at 1.5ml of oil based and 1ml of water?

i go between delts/tri/chest so its not that bad (yet?). and im at 1ml/day oil. its a blend 60 prop 40tren /ml.

 

[timmmah]

Regardless if you're on or not, thats way too much. Yes your protein synthesis is increases while on, but you can still overtrain, steroids arent magic. Rest is just as vital whether on or not. Muscles still need time to recover. Once you start pushing a good amount of weight, time off is your best friend.

I humbly respect your opinion of my workout regimen being too much. I do not however, agree that rest is just as vital for someone on steroids as someone who is not. The whole reasoning behind the invention of steroids is to be able to push beyond limits, If your workout is the same when your on as when your off, you are undertraining and not acheiving the gains you could be attaining. Muscles recover in a fraction of the time when on steroids as compared to when not on.

 

[EasyEJL]

Yuck, I rotated quads/glutes/delts but then threw in 1 day of something else so each spot got a full week. Couldn't ever quite do chest or triceps.

 

[Distilled Water]

Be careful with the tren if its your first time running. Sides will sneak up quick and hit you HARD!!!! I was at 50mg ED and had to drop to 37.5mg ED, couldnt deal with the back pumps, night sweats and insomnia. Once they hit me they were there for good, I eventually cut it short the last week. Still solid gains from 37.5mg ED

 

[unc21]

I humbly respect your opinion of my workout regimen being too much. I do not however, agree that rest is just as vital for someone on steroids as someone who is not. The whole reasoning behind the invention of steroids is to be able to push beyond limits, If your workout is the same when your on as when your off, you are undertraining and not acheiving the gains you could be attaining. Muscles recover in a fraction of the time when on steroids as compared to when not on.

Muscles may recover faster, but your CNS, joints, tendons, and ligaments do not.

 

[GLHF]

Be careful with the tren if its your first time running. Sides will sneak up quick and hit you HARD!!!! I was at 50mg ED and had to drop to 37.5mg ED, couldnt deal with the back pumps, night sweats and insomnia. Once they hit me they were there for good, I eventually cut it short the last week. Still solid gains from 37.5mg ED

i agree with everything right here. but im adviced from an amature bber, and a powerlifter and other recreational juicers to bump the tren and thats its "low" or "too low"...ill go at 40mg/day for a few more weeeks, possibly bump up to 60mg ED

Muscles may recover faster, but your CNS, joints, tendons, and ligaments do not.

EXACTLY!!


new split + diet:

50g whey = 260cal 6g carb, 50g protein
chicken + rice 25g pro/30g carbs
chicken + rice 25g pro/30g carbs
workout
50g whey + 1 large banana (100cal) = 50g pro, 35g carbs, 360cal
10eggs (6egg whites, 4 eggs) + 2 slices cheese = 660cal, 60g pro
2tsp PB = 200 calories, 7g carbs, 7g protein

totals: 2080cal, 220g pro, 120g carbs

pretty much same thing. added banana post WO, and PB before bed (got the advice from amature bber, i trust that)


Chest + biceps + triceps + 30min LISS
Legs + traps + lats + 30min LISS
OFF abs + cardio + forearms
Chest + shoulders + triceps + 30min LISS
Back + traps + biceps + 30min LISS
OFF abs + cardio + forearms + 30min LISS
OFF

 

[timmmah]

Muscles may recover faster, but your CNS, joints, tendons, and ligaments do not.

Tendons and ligaments actually do become stronger with routine training. The key is to not increase the load on them too much at one time. If you train 3-4 days a week and only one body part per day, you surely don't want to jump into my train-everything-twice-a-week regimen.

Like a marathon runner who runs 5-10 miles every day or a block-layer who lifts 30 pound 8 x 8's all day long 5 days in a row, your ligaments tendons and even joints will rise to the occasion just as your muscles do.

If you always lift heavy, you will put too much stress on the skeletal system, don't get me wrong, I agree. The thing is move more volume at least half of the time, there's more than one way to achieve muscle failure. I guess the bottom line is what are you lifting weights for? To look like a bodybuilder or be a power lifter?

 

[GLHF]

1/27

Squat
Leg Press
a few dead lifts
pull ups
leg extentions
leg curl



10eggs + 2 cheese
50g whey
50g whey + banana
1/2lb steak
1/2lb steak

 

[timmmah]

Good workout man, how often do you do abs and for how long?

 

[GLHF]

Day 13 / 1/28

Chest/Triceps/shoulders

Incline BB
Decline Smith
Flat BB burn out
DB Seated press
tricep push downs
over head extentions ss with reverse push downs
db side raises ss with bb front raises

31min LISS


Diet:
50g whey
chicken + rice
chicken + rice
wo
50g whey + banana
2/3 lb steak

im calculating to be TOPS at 2000cal, give or take 50. im at 227lbs, so i think im doing fine so far. im gonna start cutting carbs out, and go into a keto diet with 1x/week refeeds.

Good workout man, how often do you do abs and for how long?

Wednesday + thrusday are my more specific ab days. i would do 100 declines + other stuff. but on almost all days i do crunches. but starting today im adding twisting movements. theres this machine in my gym where you rotate ur upper/lower body with weights. i need to start doing that, my stomach is getting much tighter, but my lower back is fat / back around the hips is fat that i cant hit just with normal ab exercises.




also, was shoting my left pec last night. im injecting and halfway a drop of blood goes into the syringe. i bugged out a little, pulled out right away. not even a drop come out of the hole. im taking that as a good sign, no cough or anything as well.

 

[GLHF]

Day 13

Cardio + abs

100 decline sit ups
torso turns machine ss wit crunches
side oblique

60min LISS tread mill, 470cal, 5% incline at 2.7speed and heart rate avrg was 101 !!!. is that even humanly possible? its usually ~120

sauna for a few min


50g whey + banana
10eggs + 2 cheese + apple
50g whey
10eggs + 2 cheese + apple

low cal day.




side: its kinda hard to sleep but ive had that from before. ****ED up dreams that are so real, im afraid when i wake up. definetly more angry lol.

buttt ****ttt i looked good today and yesterday.

 

[timmmah]

Glad to see you eating fruit, now try broccoli, the lack of fiber has got to be hell in the shiittter

 

[GLHF]

Glad to see you eating fruit, now try broccoli, the lack of fiber has got to be hell in the shiittter

i ate chciekn + brocoli for lunch a few days ago. but i know i need to eat more brocoli. im gonna end up eventually just each egg whites chicken and brocoli

 

[CCV3]

Broccoli gets so old, but it's a staple. Had some today actually.

Right now I'm mainly on cauliflower and zucchini.
I have a habit of choosing a veggie and just running with it till I'm sick of it. Then I switch it up.

Plus I just swooped up 5 tubs of Superior Greens at $10 a pop!

 

[GLHF]

.....i was 229.2 this morning. WTF yesterday i did 60min cardio and ate 1800cal. im actually getting depressed. i havent lost a pound since start of cut (2 weeks ago) and i dont know how, i havent had a day with over 2600cal, and that was only 1 day, and the extra cal came from steak.

i dont know what to do. im eating carbs compared to all my other cuts which were keto, but i wasted so much muscle doing them. should i switch over to keto??? or drop the cal even lower?

 

[CCV3]

You should really go paleo first rather than keto.
Paleo meaning no sugar. Stop the banana's and apples.
The cheese is no good either.

Water, protein and veggies.
Carb up twice.
Morning and pre workout.

Forget about your insulin spike post work out. Do a scoop of greens with your whey, that's enough carbs to keep you anti catabolic.

I admit I'm a hard gainer. I always have been, but I can shred down with the best of them.

 

[timmmah]

You should really go paleo first rather than keto.
Paleo meaning no sugar. Stop the banana's and apples.
The cheese is no good either.

Water, protein and veggies.
Carb up twice.
Morning and pre workout.

Forget about your insulin spike post work out. Do a scoop of greens with your whey, that's enough carbs to keep you anti catabolic.

I admit I'm a hard gainer. I always have been, but I can shred down with the best of them.

I completely agree and plan to do the same in about ten weeks, good post

 

[GLHF]

imma take ur advice CCV3. im gonna start doing that tomorrow. but i thought having an apple wont hurt at all since i was still way under maintanence.. ****.

i just really cant believe i didnt drop a pound.....mayb muscle gain from the tren?? idk anymore, and i know that numbers dont mean anything and to go by the mirror, but damn!!

 

[GLHF]

Chest/tri/bi

bb incline
decline bb

preacher bb
incline db curl

tricep push downs bar
tricep over head pulls rope

20min LISS



50g whey
tuna wrap ww bread
50g whey with oats
50g whey
steak .8lb

226.2 this morning.

Definetly strength increase even after yesterday(low cal day/rest)

 

[CCV3]

3lbs in a couple days, now you will see it.
Removing all sugar keeps your body churning. I know you know, but sugar makes it impossible for your body to burn fat. Whether it comes from fruit or candy bars, sugar is sugar. It will always attack sugar first.

Currently marinating 2lbs of lean turkey ground meat and 4lbs of tenderloins. I'm set for the next couple of days! Hyped...

 

[GLHF]

3lbs in a couple days, now you will see it.
Removing all sugar keeps your body churning. I know you know, but sugar makes it impossible for your body to burn fat. Whether it comes from fruit or candy bars, sugar is sugar. It will always attack sugar first.

Currently marinating 2lbs of lean turkey ground meat and 4lbs of tenderloins. I'm set for the next couple of days! Hyped...

that sounds soooo good.

what are ur opinions on oats? thers sugar in them, should i steal eat them? im still averaging 1800 or less a day, would it matter that much? i look better and so much stronger with carbs leading up to the workout (none after workout).

 

[CCV3]

The turkey ground came out better than the tenderloins.
I used different marinates (both from the Persian store), but both are still bomb.

I've always done oats. Full cup every morning.
My morning shake goes like this:

1 cup of rolled oats
1 scoop of isopure mango protein
5 frozen strawberries
5 eggs (3 whites and 2 whole)
2 cups of water and a half cup of ice
Blend and chug.

That's the only time I will have a whole grain carb or fruit (strawberries are 98% water anyways). Other than pre work out which is usually a really small amount of brown rice or 2 pieces of wheat toast.

I've gone from 212 to 198 in a month.
I'm currently on a cycle too, but that's been my diet so far.

 

[GLHF]

Day 15
back

rack pulls
bb row
wide grip pull downs to back ss with to front
bb shrug
db shrug

100 declines

60min LISS

meal 1 - 55pro/35carb/0fat
meal 2- 55pro/35carb/0fat
meal 3- 55pro/35carb/0fat
meal 4- 60g pro/0carb/10fat

chest/back friday