1-test Cyp and 5aa Cyp

[Tbird006]

Can someone tell me how to make these from powder

not together

 

[Chemo]

1) Add powder to oil.
2) Heat until dissolved.
3) Filter.
4) Heat shock 3 times.
5) Let cool and enjoy.

Chemo

BTW, the directions would be more specific with a more specific question i.e. - How do I make "X" concentration with "Y" compound for a final volume of "Z"?

 

[WATERLOGGED]

ba,bb

 

[Chemo]

Of course, how can I forget such small things like BA/ BB? Good catch...

BTW, it should be noted that since you are dealing with cypionates it would behoove you to review information of optimal volume of BB since that co-solvent is particularly efficient with those esters.

Chemo

 

[Rock Lee]

So can you tell me how I would go about making a 25 ml vial of 5AA cypionate with a 200 mg/ml concentration?

Also for future reference in regards to BA/BB...(I know this is a really newbie question) how do you know what concentration to use and how many ml of each product to use?

Maybe a better question would be is there a thread/article anywhere that kind of just talks about making powders into injectables in general? Like is there a general protocol that can always be used when making them?

 

[Chemo]

200 mg/mL x 25 mL = 5000 mg (5 grams) of powder needed

Add the oil matrix (oil, BA, BB) to the powder in a measuring device and dissolve. After it is dissolved add enough matrix to bring back to volume. Filter, heat shock, enjoy.

Chemo

 

[Rock Lee]

I get that part. It's the percentages of BA/BB that I'm confused about. How do people come up with what percentages to use of each benzyl? Just preferance based on trial and error? Or are the percentages used based on the ester? Like Always use 5% BA and 10% BB when dealing with cypionates?

 

[Chemo]

2.5% BA if your sterile technique is pristine
Go up to 5% BA if your sterile technique is not pristine

For cyps, go with about 10% BB for solutions up to 300 mg/mL

Chemo

 

[Rock Lee]

One last question (I think/hope): So BB is optional then? It seems like if you were to look up 5 different conversion recipes, only 1 of them would use BB. Is it not needed?

 

[Chemo]

For cypionates BB is necessary for a painfree brew!

REASON: BB is a co-solvent that is specifically matched for the cypionate ester. It will stabilize the batch so it does not crash and also keeps it in solution longer while in depot. While it may work to a certain degree with other esters (such as enanthates, props, etc) it is MOST EFFECTIVE with cypionates.

Chemo

 

[Rock Lee]

Okay got it.

Thanks for spelling it out for me.

 

[uridium245]

The following ratios/amount should give you the consentrations you want. Maybe Chemo can double check my math on this.

BA@4%=1ml
BB@10%=2.5ml
5 grams 5AA Cyp
17.5ml USP Oil

Don't forget to filter & bake. Hope this helps, it should be pretty pain free. Painfull injects are usually caused by too high a consentration (>300mg/ml) or too much ba. :thumbsup:

 

[shredded]

how long do you bake and at what temp.

 

[uridium245]

250 degrees for 45 minutes. Then filter. (Ops I guess I should have written bake then filter above.) Some people prefer higher temps for shorter periods, but anything over 180-200 degrees should sterilize your batch and be above the melting point for most anabolics. Some also recommend heat shocking the batch 3 times at 350 degrees for shorter periods. I got the time and temp I use from one of Kitchen Chemist posts and its worked fine. No infections, not even a mild temp, and nothing has fallen out of solution. :drunk:

 

[fatty]

CEM offers kits, but they don't include BB...why, they just use BA..here is what one of the kits contains:

1 - 50ml sealed sterile vile. 1 – 60ml empty mixing bottle. 1 – 10cc sterile syringe. 2 – 18g X 1½� sterile needles. 1 - .45 syringe filter. 1 - .2 syringe filter. 1 – Coffee filter. 60cc Cotton seed oil. 8cc Benzyl Alcohol.

 

[Rock Lee]

CEM?

 

[fatty]

Cuttingedgemuscle.com

 

[prld2gr8ns]

Couldn't you just use a universal kit, like the ones sold at F***Farm for 5aa and 1T cyp.

 

[shredded]

can 5aa cyp be mde @ 300mgs ? and be pain free ? i got 15 gms i want to make 50 ccs.

 

[fatty]

CEM offers kits, but they don't include BB...why, they just use BA..here is what one of the kits contains:

1 - 50ml sealed sterile vile. 1 – 60ml empty mixing bottle. 1 – 10cc sterile syringe. 2 – 18g X 1½� sterile needles. 1 - .45 syringe filter. 1 - .2 syringe filter. 1 – Coffee filter. 60cc Cotton seed oil. 8cc Benzyl Alcohol.

bump for some kind of input

 

[Chemo]

BA is a bacteriostatic agent and some mistakenly use it as a co-solvent. However, for cypionates, it is best to use BB as a co-solvent.

IMO, the best method of making preps is to source the ingredients yourself and make the batch. Get some BB...your inject site will thank you.

Chemo