Okay, where to begin? You're going to have to educate me here, because this doesn't make sense.
1. Does Forma-Stanozolol not contain Winstrol? If not, why is Stanozolol listed in the name; Sounds a little misleading. If it is, then this also holds true (Quoted from WikiPedia, but also found anywhere else on the internet): "Stanozolol, commonly sold under the name Winstrol (oral) and Winstrol Depot (intramuscular), was developed by Winthrop Laboratories in 1962. It is a
synthetic anabolic steroid derived from testosterone, and has been approved by the FDA for human use". Sounds like taking a steroid to me.
No it does not contain winny that would be e-legal.. Its called this because like winstrol and any dht it can lower estrogen and progesterone well also drying you out too.
2. Also according to WikiPedia: [Formestane] also acts as a prohormone to 4-hydroxytestosterone, an active steroid which displays weak androgenic activity in addition to acting as a mild aromatase inhibitor." Formestane is anabolic at a certain dose, you are correct. It's NOT HARD to hit that dose, and it is suppressive at that dose, since it converts to 4-Hydroxy-Testosterone. I have not seen a study that shows what that dose is (definitively). Will you return to normal. Sure! Will it slow you're return to homeostasis? Yep!
Well then i guess you have not looked at just about every study out there on it.. at a dose of 200mg a week injected or 250mg every day oral spread out that is as high most of the studies have gone and all of them have shown "No shut down at all or conversion to a anabolic" It is doses used above this when it happens..
Unless you have one single study you would like to show me that shows the dose that it does start to convert ????? I dont think you do.. So we will just go with 250mg every day is still not enough to cause shut down of any kind thus making the tiny 100mg a day if taking a full dose of forma-stanzol every day NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!! to what it would take to cause that.
3. Of course estrogen is going to go up using a SERM! Guess what! Estrogen is going to go up eventually anyways (Can't use Forma-Stanozolol forever)!!! Now, would you rather have estrogen slowly rise in a controlled environment (I.E. using a SERM), thus preventing gyno and returning to homeostasis, OR, would you rather raise test to higher-than-normal levels, with less-than-normal estrogen, and then have the excess test suddenly aromatize to estrogen (sounds like a definite rebound to me) after discontinuing Forma-Stanozolol? I'd prefer the controlled environment, rather than have all that happen AFTER PCT!
You must not know a damn thing about "suicide aromatase inhibitors" . This means that Forma-stanzol binds to the aromatase enzyme in a permanent and irreversible manner, rendering it inactive. The result of this is an eventual diminishment of aromatase enzyme in the body and a concurrent reduction in estrogen levels. A corresponding increase in testosterone production is usually experienced as well
It is important to note here that this deactivation of aromatase enzymes by forma-stanzol does not mean that your body becomes permanently deficient in the ability to synthesize estrogen. Your body will react to the deficiency of enzyme by producing more enzyme to replace that which has been deactivated.
after using "suicide aromatase inhibitors" estrogen does not just bounce back it slowly comes back as if tapering on its one.
but if using So no your explanation of some kind of super bounce back is not posable never has happened and never will... this is often why many people use a "suicide aromatase inhibitors" at the end of a gyno removal cycle. Because they "prevent rebound" better then anything else....
NOT EVEN A CHANCE THAT THIS WILL CAUSE REBOUND. INFACT IT INSURES THAT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
4. If Formestane has nothing in common with a SERM (which it doesn't), then adding an anabolic steroid to it probably won't help much either. If you want to add all that to your PCT, and then rely on a Phytoserm (which I know nothing about-the only research I've found is that they are effective for menopause, osteopenia, and osteoporosis-nothing about being selective to breast tissue), go right ahead. But there's a reason traditional SERMs are used 99% of the time in medicine (if not 100%), and not Phytoserms. Do they have their applications? Maybe (I don't know too much about them), but PCT is too important (for me anyways) to trust to a mysterious Phytoserm, especially in the presence of TWO steroidal components.
AGAIN YOU ARE RUNG AND MUST LOOK INTO THINGS BEFORE YOU SPEAK. IT HAS NOT WINNY IN IT AND NEVER HAS.
5. Running Forma-Stanozolol for PCT is like extending your cycle longer (albeit with weaker steroids), and adding in a phytoserm. Not sure how effective that will be (probably will help you keep some gains), and you very well may recover safely (I doubt it's more effective at recovery than a SERM), but it WILL extend your time until homeostasis is reached.
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6. SERMs are not always necessary. However, if/when you grow man-boobs, pretty sure you're gonna wish you had one, and you will DEFINITELY regret not listening to almost EVERYBODY else with experience telling you to use one! They also have human trials, and they have been around for a LONG time. I have NOTHING to gain by suggesting a SERM. Can you say the same for Forma-Stanozolol?
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SO NOW YOU ARE SAYING A SERM IS WHAT YOU USE FOR GYNO... MY GOD THIS GETS WORSE AND WORSE WITH EVERY POST!!!!
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7. I don't know what else to say. Forma-Stanozolol = 2 weak steroids w/ a PhytoSERM, that by definition stops you from returning to homeostasis (lowers estrogen to below-baseline levels). And, estrogen IS good to a certain extent. The sooner you can get it back to normal, the sooner your HDL/LDL cholesterol will go back to normal, which is important. Crushing estrogen from the get go with an AI, jacking test above normal levels, and adding in a steroid (Winstrol) does not help! AND, since I know how much you like studies, here's one for you showing the BAD effects of Stanozolol (Winstrol) on HDL/LDL ratios, among other things:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/261/8/1165.abstract. Add that to Formestane, which crushes estrogen, inhibits 5-AR (thus lowering DHT which would normally inhibit estrogen activity at tissues), and at higher doses, converts to 4-hydroxytest, further hurting your cholesterol levels.
YYOU KEEP SAYING STEROID STEROID STEROID..........OPEN YOUR EYES YOU ARE WRONG ... TRY READING SOMETHING BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH YOU LOOK LIKE A FOOL BRO.
8. Maybe I didn't change any minds here, and I am definitely NOT an expert. However, I have been researching for a LONG time, and this is the fruits of my researching. Maybe I'm wrong, and if so, I would definitely prefer to be corrected PROFESSIONALLY! I do have an open mind, but when you come on here and accuse me of either being a "lair" or ignorant, I do take offense, hence the overall tone of this post. I have defended you previously in other threads (you probably know which one I'm talking about-I even said I wanted to use that product, by the way...), but I really do NOT appreciate you coming at me like this. Educate me or don't, but don't be an *******. It's not necessary/professional/appropriate.
WELL THEN YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO RESEARCHING.. YOUR FRUIT IS SPOILED.
--Brian
P.S.
Sorry for the long post. I would NEVER post anything this long unless I STRONGLY disagreed with the information being presented.
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