clen and pre workout

[rob1880]

this may be a dumb question but have any of you guys did a cycle of clen and also took your pre workout supplement like jack3d before workout
thought that may be overkill on your heart
im not sure how much energy clen gives you ,may be twice as much as a fat burner

 

[rob1880]

dame nobody can give me a simple quick answer

 

[rob1880]

bump

 

[DBdude]

Don't do it

 

[ZamaMan]

Nope havnt mixed. Clen already stims my central nervous system enough. I couldn't see the need for more.

 

[rob1880]

thanks for the info guys , i was just making sure

 

[boricuarage]

dame nobody can give me a simple quick answer

nobody wanna answer because it's stupid to do this....
be careful with clen, that stuff had me leaving work early one day

 

[GeekPoop]

ive done helios and 800mg+ of caffeiene a day, dont reccomend jus saying what ive done

 

[DBdude]

ive done helios and 800mg+ of caffeiene a day, dont reccomend jus saying what ive done

wow, with that amount of stims in an effort to drop fat I would have just gone straight to 2,4-Dinitrophenol and saved some time and skipped the injectable part.

Disclaimer: I highly advise to NOT take 2,4-Dinitrophenol unless you have plenty of experience, it is a VERY potent and potentially dangerous compound like insulin and should be treated as such. Very fascinating tho :sgrin:

 

[GeekPoop]

wow, with that amount of stims in an effort to drop fat I would have just gone straight to 2,4-Dinitrophenol and saved some time and skipped the injectable part.

Disclaimer: I highly advise to NOT take 2,4-Dinitrophenol unless you have plenty of experience, it is a VERY potent and potentially dangerous compound like insulin and should be treated as such. Very fascinating tho :sgrin:

didnt use the caffeiene to drop fat, just like energry drinks and i used my pre workout

 

[MikeGfilms]

Alot of people underestimate how powerful clen really is. Dont mix the two because a) it stims you enough already b) you dont need any more increases in BP. I wont use clen anymore after reading about how it has been proven to cause cell death in the heart/cardiac tissue. Also it makes look like a damn junkie who has had his fi in a week lol, the shakes, especially when your trying to pick up women.

 

[boricuarage]

Alot of people underestimate how powerful clen really is. Dont mix the two because a) it stims you enough already b) you dont need any more increases in BP. I wont use clen anymore after reading about how it has been proven to cause cell death in the heart/cardiac tissue. Also it makes look like a damn junkie who has had his fi in a week lol, the shakes, especially when your trying to pick up women.

it's amazing how powerful that lil pill is!! I had headaches for 2 days...

 

[hungryH]

does anyone else find clen totally useless for fat loss?

I get all the sides very strongly as I dose it at 120-160mg, but the fat loss doesnt seem any faster with it than without....

 

[mmowry]

Clen didnt help me very much and the sides proved not to be worth the minimal benefit. YMMV

 

[MacTech]

does anyone else find clen totally useless for fat loss?

I get all the sides very strongly as I dose it at 120-160mg, but the fat loss doesnt seem any faster with it than without....

Night and day difference for me, but you must be at 5-6% BF to see what it does and it is anti catabolic which helps to retain LBM while cutting hard.

 

[rob1880]

yea im guessing cytomel would be alot better for fat loss

 

[DBdude]

does anyone else find clen totally useless for fat loss?

I get all the sides very strongly as I dose it at 120-160mg, but the fat loss doesnt seem any faster with it than without....

Clen didnt help me very much and the sides proved not to be worth the minimal benefit. YMMV

There is a biological reason for why some people don't get results from clenbuterol. Some info from my internist that handles my asthma had told me about 20% of people have a genetic mutation of the beta 2 receptors that makes them unresponsive to albuterol treatments, which act on your beta 2 receptors as the same with clenbuterol which is also an asthma medication. So if your unresponsive to clenbuterol's thermogenic properties then it is highly likely that your parents passed down this gene for the mutation.

 

[TripDog]

I love it personally.

 

[TripDog]

Night and day difference for me, but you must be at 5-6% BF to see what it does and it is anti catabolic which helps to retain LBM while cutting hard.

Yes sir

 

[DBdude]

I love it personally.

Agreed.. at 40mcg and i love it just for the energy it gives me on a very low carb diet when all the preworkouts could not, Best workouts I've had since last cycle and I should be dead tired on low carbs. If it speeds up the weightloss then its just an added bonus for me

 

[TripDog]

Agreed.. at 40mcg and i love it just for the energy it gives me on a very low carb diet when all the preworkouts could not, Best workouts I've had since last cycle and I should be dead tired on low carbs. If it speeds up the weightloss then its just an added bonus for me

Yea low doses can be very effective. No need to run it in the 80-100's. 30-50mcg upon waking. Better than coffee, anti-catabolic, nice enhancement to energy, once you take it for a week or so shakes totally go away. Makes me sweat more that usuall at the gym. Improves my cardio output 10 fold, even though some say it decreases theirs. If sides get too much, I take a little phenibut (blocks most phenylethylamine type actions) and in a few mins totally fine.

 

[DBdude]

I take a little phenibut (blocks most phenylethylamine type actions) and in a few mins totally fine.

I did a similar thing but with GABA, Same results

 

[TripDog]

I did a similar thing but with GABA, Same results

Yea, phenibut is phenyl-gaba (hence much more effective by easily crossing the blood-brain barrier)

 

[DBdude]

Yea, phenibut is phenyl-gaba (hence much more effective by easily crossing the blood-brain barrier)

The only problem is that phenibut is so efficient at crossing the barrier that you can build a tolerance quickly if you use it too frequently

 

[TripDog]

The only problem is that phenibut is so efficient at crossing the barrier that you can build a tolerance quickly if you use it too frequently

Yea, but if you buy a bunch of it, it's no big deal. The tolerance thing is way overrated imo. It always has anti-anxiety effects, tolerance to that doesn't really go away, just the somewhat 'euphoria" feeling goes away. It works well as a valuim type varient regardless.

 

[phatmike0704]

useless? i dont see how u wont see results.i dropped an easy 20lbs after 2 weeks and my buddy just finished his cycle last week, dropped 30 but he's just a really fat guy with no muscle lol but ya, he looks like a new man. face fat decreased a lot