Test E with SD kickstart - 10 days in..

[phonefool]

First inj. cycle...ran a couple PH's and Var cycles in the past..10 days in:

week 1-10 test e , 600mg/wk (300 mon, thurs)
week 1-3 mdrol 20mg/day
week 7-12 (was hoping to get some Var, at least 50mg/day)
week 13 start pct (nolva, clomid) ...have adex on hand if needed

Was going to kickstart with Dbol but watching my buddy blow up from bloat was a turn off, even tho his strength went thru the roof...and yeah everyone is different but i previously had great success with mdrol..as a matter of fact i am already up 7, 8 pounds and strength increasing accordingly... first experience with test and i am sure its way to soon for any gains to kick in but boy let me tell you my libido is craaaaazy ....

2 questions...

first...my source's connect for Var he use to get was the bomb..but he might not be able to get it again...and wanting to make the best out of my first test cycle..im lookin for feedback on what else i can use to complete this cycle...

I have phera and epi on hand (both of which i have never run) and am looking into availability of tbol or primo ...not interested in winny as im on a clean bulk...maybe i should leave it alone and just ride the test out solo after the mdrol?

second.. like i said 10 days in....first shot (right quad, monday) was smooth and almost painless...sure i felt a little soar in my quad the next day but by wednesday (leg day) i was 100 percent...second shot (left quad, thurs) not sure what i did wrong exactly..i know i tensed a lil bit..also i injected the oil pretty quickly, i think way to quickly...was not thinking..point is...i was a freakin cripple for like 2 days lol...no lump, no redness, no sign of infection...just horrible pain whenever i tried to bend my leg..getting in and out of my car was a nightmare! ..i was a little worried but saturday started to feel better and sunday i was 100 percent...

this monday, right quad again...smooth and almost painless again...so tomorrow back to left quad and im wondering if the fact that Wed being my leg day, and then shooting into my quad thurs...is that bad for the muscle while its recovering? could that have been the reason it hurt so much? also want to point out that last thursday the pain was not evident...it was friday that was torture..through out the day it seemed to get worse, by friday night i did not even want to walk! saturday was major relief let me tell you!! lol

thanks to the bros on here as always for feedback and advice!!

 

[BarbellBeast]

Bump the test to 12 weeks for sure.

Run the EPI at the end for 4-6 weeks to finish off since you have it anyways.

And bro, quit pinning your damn quads. Everyone's been complaining how they hurt sooo bad. PIN your damn glutes. Painless. I just alternate back & forth glute shots and like I said painless. Hope this helps bud.

 

[neverstop]

if it were me I'd just run the mdrol for the first 3 weeks at 20mg and then take a few weeks break and then finish the cycle up with 4 weeks of mdrol again or 4 weeks of phera. I fealt like phera was MUCH better than epi in almost all ways, it made me feel worse but if you are on test you should be feeling ok from that.

 

[phonefool]

Bump the test to 12 weeks for sure.

Run the EPI at the end for 4-6 weeks to finish off since you have it anyways.

And bro, quit pinning your damn quads. Everyone's been complaining how they hurt sooo bad. PIN your damn glutes. Painless. I just alternate back & forth glute shots and like I said painless. Hope this helps bud.

problem for me with the glutes is that im kind of a clumsy control freak lol...so i guess i felt like with quads much easier to get in, aspirate, shoot, and get out..i tried "simulating" glutes and feel much more akward ... plus my girl likes to grab on my ass when im on top so that was another concern i had ...but like you said i do hear they are the least painful...2 out of 3 in the quads so far were great just that 1 time ...yikes...lol

also to go to 12 weeks ill have to pick up one more vial (i have 2, 10ml) which would mean either i will have left over, or i will be going 15 weeks...was thinkin to stay at 10 because im not running HCG but if its that much more worthwhile ill def pick up 1 more...

 

[phonefool]

thanks for the feedback guys....so i got one vote epi, and a second vote says run mdrol (again? lol) or phera...any other votes?

 

[phonefool]

ok so OT and Primo are not an option...but i have a couple of weeks to go before i have to decide and in the meantime hopefully the var will come thru...

 

[scott85]

Quick question...Since I really dont feel like starting an entire new thread. I just started the exact same run as the OP (sorry dont mean to threadjack) would it be alright to sub cel xtren instead of Sd??....I would only be running 90/90/90 for the first three weeks. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

weeks 1-12 test e 500mg wed/sun
weeks 1-3 cel xtren 90mgs
then nolva 3 days after my last inject 40/40/20

Stats: 25 years old. 170 pounds. Have a few ph cycles under my belt. hdrol, xtren.
any feedback would be great. Cheers!

 

[scott85]

Or should I just stick to the test only since this is my first "run" of real gear?.

 

[phonefool]

personally never ran xtren and for the same reason i am not interested in deca - which is possibility of sides would be progestin related and its an entirely different game to combat if encountered...

you said you ran xtren before with success so maybe you will be fine....but do some homework on the nolva because my understanding is nolva is not good for pct after xtren and clomid is preferred...