Just how Suppressive is S4?

[KBD]

If im in PCT could i get away with a little suppression on 100mg a day of sarms and still recover?

 

[junkyarddogzz]

100mgs is pushing it for pct, drop it down to 50mgs.

 

[OnTheRoadTo]

I'd also be concerned with vision sides at that dose

 

[KBD]

Idc about vision sides, doesnt bother me. So 100 would be pushing? hows 70??

 

[KBD]

bump

 

[JCunningham]

Idc about vision sides, doesnt bother me. So 100 would be pushing? hows 70??

I am gonna do 75.
I say you are safe at that dose.

 

[on the run]

i did 50mg a day during pct. i found it was awesome for holding on to gains (i gained 22 pounds on the cycle and didn't lose any during pct or to date (3 weeks after pct)). but the vision sides becoming unbearable for me, i do a lot of driving and loading my car etc at night for gigs and even on 50mg a day i actually couldnt see **** at night. i took a week off to get the sides to go away and am now doing 5 days on 2 days off and it's a lot better

 

[KBD]

Ill do 70, i know bro i havent lost any strength

 

[JCunningham]

Ill do 70, i know bro i havent lost any strength

When you starting the S4, I will follow..

 

[Jstrong20]

Its up in the air. Some claiming shut down and others saying no shut down and recovering fine while using it in pct. So who knows.

 

[MikeGfilms]

its actually pretty suppressive from what ive herd..

i saw a few logs on steroidology and one i remember the guy saying bloodwork showed his test levels were cut in half...so to be used in a pct seems pretty damn dumb to me. Id rather do a dbol bridge if anything.

 

[JCunningham]

Or use OSTA

 

[KBD]

its actually pretty suppressive from what ive herd..

i saw a few logs on steroidology and one i remember the guy saying bloodwork showed his test levels were cut in half...so to be used in a pct seems pretty damn dumb to me. Id rather do a dbol bridge if anything.

Its not proven. Cause one guys levels were shutdown, doesnt mean everyone else is. Plus ive read a few where people have recovered well from using S4 PCT.

 

[MikeGfilms]

Its not proven. Cause one guys levels were shutdown, doesnt mean everyone else is. Plus ive read a few where people have recovered well from using S4 PCT.

not saying it does or doesn't...just seeing someones test levels cut in half it enough for me to not even take the chance of using it during pct. Id rather use it during the cycle, or on its own.

 

[junkyarddogzz]

its hardly suppressive at at all if any. NO ISSUES WITH ME EVER.

 

[on the run]

its actually pretty suppressive from what ive herd..

i saw a few logs on steroidology and one i remember the guy saying bloodwork showed his test levels were cut in half...so to be used in a pct seems pretty damn dumb to me. Id rather do a dbol bridge if anything.

link to that thread?

 

[MikeGfilms]

Post #95

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/150962-my-sarms-s4-cycle-log-4.html


junkyard, you have any bloodwork to prove this?
I mean i see people take hdrol cycles (supposed to be a less suppressive PH) and dont run a pct, yet keep every lb they gained.

 

[JCunningham]

Osta blood work came out and it is not suppressive.
I assume S4 is the same way.
Oh and guy was dosing osta at 25mg.

 

[on the run]

Post #95

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/150962-my-sarms-s4-cycle-log-4.html


junkyard, you have any bloodwork to prove this?
I mean i see people take hdrol cycles (supposed to be a less suppressive PH) and dont run a pct, yet keep every lb they gained.

thanks for the link, to be fair this guy was running 100mg a day. people generally suggest 50mg a day, often with a 5 on 2 off protocol

edit actually on further inspection the guy seems to think he was running like 130 a day

 

[KBD]

yeah 50mg a day is good for anabolic effects and suppression is minimal to none. Definatley wont effect pct.

 

[JCunningham]

yeah 50mg a day is good for anabolic effects and suppression is minimal to none. Definatley wont effect pct.

There isnt much of an anabolic effect at 50mg.. 75mg yes, 50, not so much...
What users are getting at 50mg is a nice androgenic effect.

 

[MikeGfilms]

so say a cycle of 100mg would be equal to what? 100mg hdrol? 10mg SD? just trying to get a feel

 

[JCunningham]

so say a cycle of 100mg would be equal to what? 100mg hdrol? 10mg SD? just trying to get a feel

S4 at 100mg may be comparable to halodrol compound
Osta to primo at 15mg

 

[MikeGfilms]

inject primo or oral primo?

 

[JCunningham]

inject primo or oral primo?

Inject primo, without the hardness.

 

[on the run]

imo it's a waste to try and use it as a muscle builder. there are a lot of cheaper options out there.. works much better in pct and as a bridge to hold on to gains, and for that you do not need a huge dose.

 

[JCunningham]

imo it's a waste to try and use it as a muscle builder. there are a lot of cheaper options out there.. works much better in pct and as a bridge to hold on to gains, and for that you do not need a huge dose.

You mean S4 right?

Because Osta is pretty legit when it comes to building mass...

S4 is more for strength, hardness, vascularity and endurance..

 

[on the run]

yeah s4

 

[junkyarddogzz]

Love that OSTA! The Combo will be epic!

 

[bigzach1234]

what are people dosing osta at during pct.. 15-25mg.. **** seems legit for pct.. cant wait to give it a try soon