Bloodwork after M4OHN

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by 200wannabe
    So in total you ran 15 days PCT following a 28 day cycle? Was it not necessary to run PCT for 28 days on completion of your cycle?

    Did you notice any gain/loss of libido on / post cycle?

    Good info thanks for sharing.
    PCT was neccessary, as it is for an androgen/anabolic.
    There was no gain or loss of libido on cycle or post cycle.
    Nutz were definitly tighter than usual however.

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  2. GGT levels are a better sign of what is going on in the liver, although the ezyme levels do help they can be sckewed by protein intake as well as working out.

    Its a good place to start, if you know your baselines and know what happens when on cycle or what happens when off cycle then atleast you can have some ideas as to hwo everything is going.

    Personally I feel liver damage is overstated with methyl use, however if you have liver problems to begin with and didnt know it you could do some serious damage. Also the liver does "heal" itself pretty quick, so enzymes can return to normal pretty fast as well.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    >One comment. If liver values are normal after a cycle, that does not
    >mean that liver damage did not occur during the cycle. It just means
    >that it was not occurring at the time of the blood test. You can get
    >(and I have) normal liver values after running M 1-T and I strongly
    >doubt that it is easy on the liver.

    Cogar-- Can you explain this a bit more? You are saying that even with liver damage, numbers may look OK. This implies that liver values do not determine liver damage.

    If that's true, then how do drug company evaluate hepatoxicity when seeking FDA approval? (Please, no comments about the politics of drug companies and their money-hungry ways. I'm trying to focus on a specific question.) Thanks.
    Yes, as Designer Supps stated, standard blood panels do not tell the whole story. For related information, here is a relevant post:
    http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...1&postcount=26

    If you want to see the entire thread, look here:
    http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12883

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    at 20mg I noticed some shedding. It's safe with propecia. Its a good choice if your predisposed to MPB.
    That suprises me... So i take it you are very sensitive then? I was planning on adding 12mg/day into my cycle. Its obviously not going to do any more damage than the Test or low dose of dbol i ran.....
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Alpine
    That suprises me... So i take it you are very sensitive then? I was planning on adding 12mg/day into my cycle. Its obviously not going to do any more damage than the Test or low dose of dbol i ran.....
    I'm sensitive yes - the hairloss was on HM Gear's M4OHN (@ 20mg+).... And I can say I had no loss on sledges product - but again i only went up to 10mg on DS'.
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