What is better for a cut 11ox or epi?
- 10-01-2010, 07:42 AM
- 10-01-2010, 07:46 AM
11-oxo is very weak, best used for cort control
- 10-01-2010, 08:07 AM
11oxo~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
10-01-2010, 08:36 AM
I have to agree with jayts22,i have used both,and i don't like 11oxo,It is good for cort control and that's it! I also had a bad rebound of cort after stopping it.I had also used proper pct.It did not help or add to my strength at all.You might get a tiny leaning affect from it,but that is do to your cort dropping.I am going to say,I am not new to the game and i have to say this is one of the worst ones i have tried as far as results.My training and diet are spot on and have been for the last 15 years of my life.I would go with an epi clone if those are you two choices.
10-01-2010, 08:50 AM
For a cut I wouldn't waste a compound such as epi.
Run 11oxo at beween 900mg-1250mg per day and cut like a champ, no sides.
jonnyjuice, what kind of cortisol rebound effects are you talking about? What was your dose/length?
10-01-2010, 08:54 AM
11-oxo is very weak, best used for cort control...use them both
10-01-2010, 09:06 AM
Cortisol, also known as hydrocortisone, is a steroid hormone or glucocorticoid produced by the adrenal gland. It is released in response to stress, and to a low level of blood glucocorticoids. Its primary functions are to increase blood sugar through gluconeogenesis, suppress the immune system, and aid in fat, protein, and carbohydrate metabolism. It also decreases bone formation. Various synthetic forms of cortisol are used to treat a variety of different illnesses.
I am saying if you want to lower Cortisol,then 11oxo is a great supp for that.It's Not going to lean you out,diet is good for that.There are other supp.s that are out there that you could use and get better results with.11oxo will lower your cort while on cycle,But it will come back after you are done and for me it came back hard!
10-01-2010, 09:47 AM
10-01-2010, 10:49 AM
10-01-2010, 11:02 AM
Thanks guys! I guess I'll save my money and look else where. Is there anything you can recommend that would help keep muscle and strength well cutting?
10-01-2010, 11:12 AM
10-01-2010, 11:51 AM
Do you think Clen is better than EC when cutting?
10-01-2010, 12:39 PM