What is better for a cut 11ox or epi?

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    What is better for a cut 11ox or epi?


    I was going to go with 11 OX but I wanted to see if people thought EPI might be better for keeping strength and leaning out on a cut. If theres something better please tell me.
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    11-oxo is very weak, best used for cort control
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    I have to agree with jayts22,i have used both,and i don't like 11oxo,It is good for cort control and that's it! I also had a bad rebound of cort after stopping it.I had also used proper pct.It did not help or add to my strength at all.You might get a tiny leaning affect from it,but that is do to your cort dropping.I am going to say,I am not new to the game and i have to say this is one of the worst ones i have tried as far as results.My training and diet are spot on and have been for the last 15 years of my life.I would go with an epi clone if those are you two choices.
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    For a cut I wouldn't waste a compound such as epi.

    Run 11oxo at beween 900mg-1250mg per day and cut like a champ, no sides.


    jonnyjuice, what kind of cortisol rebound effects are you talking about? What was your dose/length?
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    11-oxo is very weak, best used for cort control...use them both
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggy View Post
    For a cut I wouldn't waste a compound such as epi.

    Run 11oxo at beween 900mg-1250mg per day and cut like a champ, no sides.


    jonnyjuice, what kind of cortisol rebound effects are you talking about? What was your dose/length?
    I ran it 900mg for 6 weeks,and it was the worst one i have ever ran!I got better results off 1 6oxo pill ed for 4 weeks then this whole cycle.I would not waste all that money on 11oxo,there are so many better things out there.I don't know one person that has said oh this is some kick as@ stuff,i cut so hard with it.If you realy are wanting to cut,diet is key.This stuff is just a lil boost to help it along and i have to say i would not use it or ever tell anyone to buy it.As far as cortisol rebound,that is what i got,a rebound of cortisol.you know what cortisol is don't you?Not trying to b a di#K Sluggy,but if you don't I will let you know what cortisol is....................


    Cortisol, also known as hydrocortisone, is a steroid hormone or glucocorticoid produced by the adrenal gland.[1] It is released in response to stress, and to a low level of blood glucocorticoids. Its primary functions are to increase blood sugar through gluconeogenesis, suppress the immune system, and aid in fat, protein, and carbohydrate metabolism.[2] It also decreases bone formation. Various synthetic forms of cortisol are used to treat a variety of different illnesses.

    I am saying if you want to lower Cortisol,then 11oxo is a great supp for that.It's Not going to lean you out,diet is good for that.There are other supp.s that are out there that you could use and get better results with.11oxo will lower your cort while on cycle,But it will come back after you are done and for me it came back hard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayts22 View Post
    11-oxo is very weak, best used for cort control...use them both
    yeah bro weak is a under statement. Anyone should figure that when you have to run something that high to get any kind of results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyjuice View Post
    yeah bro weak is a under statement. Anyone should figure that when you have to run something that high to get any kind of results.
    X2 it did absolutely nothing for me and i ran it very high as well,Very Disappointing.
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    Thanks guys! I guess I'll save my money and look else where. Is there anything you can recommend that would help keep muscle and strength well cutting?
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    Get some Clem or p stanz
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    Do you think Clen is better than EC when cutting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justing2 View Post
    Do you think Clen is better than EC when cutting?
    if you don't take ketotifen with clenbuterol it will stop working after a few weeks..where as eca keeps working for awhile. but imo clenbuterol is the stronger of the two imo..
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