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    First Cycle (test e/a)


    Test e weeks 1-12 500mg
    test ace week 1 400mg
    week 2 300mg
    week 3 200mg
    week 4 100mg

    weeks 9-12 superdrol 20mg

    Torem weeks 14-20 90/60/60/60/60
    clomid weeks 14-17 50/50/50/50

    ill have other random bad hormone control laying around in case of problems adex, etc

    I'm 185-190 at about 8-10% bf

    This would be my first time ever touching hormones. The reason the ace is tapered off like that is I have some broscience going on that a little more of the test e would kick in each week so I would need less test ace. I like the idea of kickstarting with a faster test instead of an oral because its easier on mah liver and I read on some other forums that some guys like to finish with an oral. The superdrol isn't a definite, any other good oral will do, someone suggested that I run hdrol for the last 6 weeks, but I dont know if I like that idea.

    I plan on starting Thanksgiving at the earliest. If I'm beasting it up then naturally and still gaining strength/size then I'll probably wait until I hit a sticking point. I plan to be at least 195 before I start this.

    So tell me whats stupid about this cycle? Should I run HCG? Am I going to kill myself adding in an oral at the end? Will my penis fall off? Is the fast ester taper broscience? Am I still too small to use AAS? What would Jesus do? How would you change it?


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    For a first run, check this out. It's perfect for you. I strongly suggest it, I spend quite some time doing the research for it.

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    Ok I like that cycle, the ever popular dbol kicker

    Anyone have anything to say about my cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachmanman View Post
    Ok I like that cycle, the ever popular dbol kicker

    Anyone have anything to say about my cycle?
    Why are you tapering the tren??

    Just keep it at 300mg per week..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Why are you tapering the tren??

    Just keep it at 300mg per week..
    lol wut?

    No way I'm taking tren

    Thats test acetate, not tren

    so with the test ace would you recommend just keeping it at 300mg for the first 4 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachmanman View Post
    lol wut?

    No way I'm taking tren

    Thats test acetate, not tren
    Oh sh!t your right lol..
    SMart idea though, I'll give you that!

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    Don't know much about test ace... but the way you have it set up I assume it is a kick start?

    End with a dry steroid. Ending your cycle with Superdrol will make you gain more water weight meaning more water weight flushing out in PCT. Meaning more strength and size loss coming into PCT.

    I don't know much about ace... but maybe you could switch it's spot with Superdrol? But I guess that would defeat the purpose of getting test to kick in faster...

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    personally id keep the test ace at a constant dose for the first 4-5 weeks. say 100mg eod or even 75mg eod......and YES, eod pinning with the acetate is a must

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    personally id keep the test ace at a constant dose for the first 4-5 weeks. say 100mg eod or even 75mg eod......and YES, eod pinning with the acetate is a must
    Isnt it better to pin everyday? ace

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Isnt it better to pin everyday? ace
    better? yes

    necessary? no

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Don't know much about test ace... but the way you have it set up I assume it is a kick start?

    End with a dry steroid. Ending your cycle with Superdrol will make you gain more water weight meaning more water weight flushing out in PCT. Meaning more strength and size loss coming into PCT.

    I don't know much about ace... but maybe you could switch it's spot with Superdrol? But I guess that would defeat the purpose of getting test to kick in faster...
    thats another option I was considering, the only reason I'm considering it at the end is to get another big push before the cycle is over

    but I guess the oral at the beginning would make a lot more sense with 15lbs coming all at once with superdrol then it not just all evaporating away into pct because the test is kicking in

    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    personally id keep the test ace at a constant dose for the first 4-5 weeks. say 100mg eod or even 75mg eod......and YES, eod pinning with the acetate is a must
    yeah I chose ace because a friend of mine ran this exact same test ace for 12 weeks as his first injectable cycle and he didn't complain much or at all about injection pain EOD

    so mayb i'll be as lucky as him, if not I'll probably have to just let the test e kick in on its own

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    Well yea if you're incorporating Superdrol, no place for it but a kick start bro. You could do:

    phase 1: superdrol and test e wk1-4
    phase 2: test ace and test e wk4-8
    phase 3: test e wk8-12

    Hmmm... I know for Unreal, test in itself will not hold onto his superdrol gains coming off the oral. So jumping into test ace right after the superdrol sounds pretty wicked and then finishing off with test e. Hmm? Yea, no?

    If you wanna use all 3 compounds... this to me makes the most sense running them in this way.

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    do this!
    Test e- 1-12
    test ace- whatever u had it at
    dbol-1-4
    sd-8-12!


    Dont do this it was a joke- but have fun!
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Well yea if you're incorporating Superdrol, no place for it but a kick start bro. You could do:

    phase 1: superdrol and test e wk1-4
    phase 2: test ace and test e wk4-8
    phase 3: test e wk8-12

    Hmmm... I know for Unreal, test in itself will not hold onto his superdrol gains coming off the oral. So jumping into test ace right after the superdrol sounds pretty wicked and then finishing off with test e. Hmm? Yea, no?

    If you wanna use all 3 compounds... this to me makes the most sense running them in this way.
    eh, I don't care about the test ace, it was only there for the kickstart, I'll just keep it and use it as a test base if I decide to ever do oral cycles
    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    do this!
    Test e- 1-12
    test ace- whatever u had it at
    dbol-1-4
    sd-8-12!


    Dont do this it was a joke- but have fun!
    lol thats wayyy too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachmanman View Post
    eh, I don't care about the test ace, it was only there for the kickstart, I'll just keep it and use it as a test base if I decide to ever do oral cycles
    True that. You could really save the ace for any oral cycle to stack with, or bridge from oral to test ace.

    So what's it gonna be? Super kickstart to a test e cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    True that. You could really save the ace for any oral cycle to stack with, or bridge from oral to test ace.

    So what's it gonna be? Super kickstart to a test e cycle?
    Test ace will cause rapid gains in most peoples first/second cycle lol.. Except unreal..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    True that. You could really save the ace for any oral cycle to stack with, or bridge from oral to test ace.

    So what's it gonna be? Super kickstart to a test e cycle?
    kickstart with mdrol, which I'm kind of worried about as a first thing I put in my body

    i'll use the test ace if I decide I want to try out different legal orals on the market today

    I'd do like 4 weeks of epistane or 6 weeks of hdrol with a 300mg test ace base

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachmanman View Post
    i'll use the test ace if I decide I want to try out different legal orals on the market today

    I'd do like 4 weeks of epistane or 6 weeks of hdrol with a 300mg test ace base
    I think using ace or suspension to kick a longer estered test cycle is a good idea if you dont mind becoming a pin cushion..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachmanman View Post
    kickstart with mdrol, which I'm kind of worried about as a first thing I put in my body

    i'll use the test ace if I decide I want to try out different legal orals on the market today

    I'd do like 4 weeks of epistane or 6 weeks of hdrol with a 300mg test ace base
    That sounds like a wicked cycle bro not gonna lie...

    Hmm, how many caps and mg per cap does mdrol come in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    That sounds like a wicked cycle bro not gonna lie...

    Hmm, how many caps and mg per cap does mdrol come in?
    i have a bottle of mdrol with 90 caps with 10mg in them and a bottle of methyl-s by iron labs with 90 caps with 5mg in them

    i also have a bottle of m1t and some tren, i dont think either of those is an option right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachmanman View Post
    i have a bottle of mdrol with 90 caps with 10mg in them and a bottle of methyl-s by iron labs with 90 caps with 5mg in them

    i also have a bottle of m1t and some tren, i dont think either of those is an option right now
    Use the methy-s instead of m-drol.. IMO..

    Iron labs has 0 bunk products..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    I think using ace or suspension to kick a longer estered test cycle is a good idea if you dont mind becoming a pin cushion..
    yeah thats the only thing I'm scared of, I'd have to buy more needles to run ace anyway, so I think ill just kickstart with superdrol

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    Don't worry man you'll be fine.

    I saw blood tests from SC and they were trashed a couple weeks into PCT (he did SD and Epi bridge though which is worse than SD test e). I saw recent bloods and they are looking damn good. Why? Proper PCT.

    As long as you have a proper PCT bro it will be fine. Support supps also. AI on hand for the test to control bloat and estro... And you're good to go.

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    LOOOL Gamer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Don't worry man you'll be fine.

    I saw blood tests from SC and they were trashed a couple weeks into PCT (he did SD and Epi bridge though which is worse then SD test e). I saw recent bloods and they are looking damn good. Why? Proper PCT.

    As long as you have a proper PCT bro it will be fine. Support supps also. AI on hand for the test to control bloat and estro... And you're good to go.
    fully agree just run a good pct and you will be fine. Size gain sould be good but cycle doesnt look to crazy..

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    ok edited my pct from another forums advice

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    I like that PCT, but go 1 more week on the torem at 30mg

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    Id flip flop the tren. or start sd in the beginning as well.

    HCG is a must IMO w/ tren.

    I dont get many sides from tren but I wouldnt suggest running it for your first go about, Im sure youve heard that a million times already tho lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    Id flip flop the tren. or start sd in the beginning as well.

    HCG is a must IMO w/ tren.

    I dont get many sides from tren but I wouldnt suggest running it for your first go about, Im sure youve heard that a million times already tho lol
    Lol, I did the same thing Geek xD.. He is taking TEST ACE LOL.. Not tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Lol, I did the same thing Geek xD.. He is taking TEST ACE LOL.. Not tren
    oh my bad lol. whooopsie
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    are you guys trying to secretly imply that I should run tren?

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