First Cycle (excited for your input)
- 09-02-2010, 10:31 PM
First Cycle (test e/a)
Test e weeks 1-12 500mg
test ace week 1 400mg
week 2 300mg
week 3 200mg
week 4 100mg
weeks 9-12 superdrol 20mg
Torem weeks 14-20 90/60/60/60/60
clomid weeks 14-17 50/50/50/50
ill have other random bad hormone control laying around in case of problems adex, etc
I'm 185-190 at about 8-10% bf
This would be my first time ever touching hormones. The reason the ace is tapered off like that is I have some broscience going on that a little more of the test e would kick in each week so I would need less test ace. I like the idea of kickstarting with a faster test instead of an oral because its easier on mah liver and I read on some other forums that some guys like to finish with an oral. The superdrol isn't a definite, any other good oral will do, someone suggested that I run hdrol for the last 6 weeks, but I dont know if I like that idea.
I plan on starting Thanksgiving at the earliest. If I'm beasting it up then naturally and still gaining strength/size then I'll probably wait until I hit a sticking point. I plan to be at least 195 before I start this.
So tell me whats stupid about this cycle? Should I run HCG? Am I going to kill myself adding in an oral at the end? Will my penis fall off? Is the fast ester taper broscience? Am I still too small to use AAS? What would Jesus do? How would you change it?
- 09-03-2010, 02:31 AM
09-03-2010, 09:26 AM
09-03-2010, 10:06 AM
09-03-2010, 10:44 AM
09-03-2010, 11:05 AM
09-03-2010, 04:50 PM
Don't know much about test ace... but the way you have it set up I assume it is a kick start?
End with a dry steroid. Ending your cycle with Superdrol will make you gain more water weight meaning more water weight flushing out in PCT. Meaning more strength and size loss coming into PCT.
I don't know much about ace... but maybe you could switch it's spot with Superdrol? But I guess that would defeat the purpose of getting test to kick in faster...
09-03-2010, 04:55 PM
personally id keep the test ace at a constant dose for the first 4-5 weeks. say 100mg eod or even 75mg eod......and YES, eod pinning with the acetate is a must
09-03-2010, 05:16 PM
09-03-2010, 05:19 PM
09-03-2010, 05:44 PM
but I guess the oral at the beginning would make a lot more sense with 15lbs coming all at once with superdrol then it not just all evaporating away into pct because the test is kicking in
so mayb i'll be as lucky as him, if not I'll probably have to just let the test e kick in on its own
09-03-2010, 05:52 PM
Well yea if you're incorporating Superdrol, no place for it but a kick start bro. You could do:
phase 1: superdrol and test e wk1-4
phase 2: test ace and test e wk4-8
phase 3: test e wk8-12
Hmmm... I know for Unreal, test in itself will not hold onto his superdrol gains coming off the oral. So jumping into test ace right after the superdrol sounds pretty wicked and then finishing off with test e. Hmm? Yea, no?
If you wanna use all 3 compounds... this to me makes the most sense running them in this way.
09-03-2010, 05:58 PM
Test e- 1-12
test ace- whatever u had it at
Dont do this it was a joke- but have fun!
09-03-2010, 06:05 PM
09-03-2010, 06:13 PM
09-03-2010, 06:15 PM
09-03-2010, 06:26 PM
09-03-2010, 06:28 PM
09-03-2010, 06:34 PM
09-03-2010, 06:39 PM
09-03-2010, 06:40 PM
09-03-2010, 06:45 PM
09-03-2010, 06:48 PM
Don't worry man you'll be fine.
I saw blood tests from SC and they were trashed a couple weeks into PCT (he did SD and Epi bridge though which is worse than SD test e). I saw recent bloods and they are looking damn good. Why? Proper PCT.
As long as you have a proper PCT bro it will be fine. Support supps also. AI on hand for the test to control bloat and estro... And you're good to go.
09-03-2010, 06:51 PM
09-03-2010, 06:59 PM
09-03-2010, 07:09 PM
09-04-2010, 10:09 AM
09-04-2010, 10:43 AM
Id flip flop the tren. or start sd in the beginning as well.
HCG is a must IMO w/ tren.
I dont get many sides from tren but I wouldnt suggest running it for your first go about, Im sure youve heard that a million times already tho lol
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09-04-2010, 11:03 AM
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