My first TEST INJECT cycle!!!

[wolfe14]

Ok so i've done a few Ph cycles including SD with good results. Now I'm thinking of running this vial of test cyp that I've been sitting on for a yr now.. Starting Sept 1st I'm planning to run:

Wk 1-10 test cyp 250 mg a week (low dose)
wk 1-4 SD @ 20 mg


Now I am also kicking around the idea of ending this cycle with a 6 weeker of Turinabol by PP to shred up, but If i do what would be the best way to incorporate that into cycle and when in the cycle is it best to add that???

Also should i order some arimidex to take while on??

For PCT:
TRS stack by PP
nolva or clomid

I'm 6'1" 198 lbs @ about 13-14% BF

 

[sanchezgreg18]

get another vial of test first. 250mg is some peoples TRT dose, which isnt alot ,, your gonna be shutdown and not get any benefits really. 500mg is minimum dose

 

[wolfe14]

another vial is out of question...only have the one and dont have a connect anymore...If anything it can help prolong the gains from SD, help libido & lethargy etc...there has got to be some benefits from running it with SD

 

[sanchezgreg18]

depending on what your normal test levels are 250mg might not be much more than what you would normally have. and since the SD is gonna shut you down and then being on for another 10 weeks with slightly higher test levels isnt gonna do much and might just make your recovery harder but thats just my opinion so

 

[mooch2321]

250 is fine for a first cycle, you dont have to do 500 like errryone else does. Ive seen dudes blow up off 250mgs a week. should still be about 10xs what your body produces. Nowhere near where your at naturally. But i do have some bad news for you........



your test is fake! :rasp:

 

[wolfe14]

LOL what?? My Test is fake? Don't get it bro!!!

 

[GeekPoop]

run it 12+ weeks

get adex incase you get puffy

you could end the cycle w/ the hdrol or w/e the day before pct cuz you have 2 weeks while you wait for the ester to clear

 

[timmmah]

I'm in

 

[mooch2321]

LOL what?? My Test is fake? Don't get it bro!!!

yeah i heard your test was fake

 

[wolfe14]

yeah i heard your test was fake

That's interesting! Considering you and I don't know each other

 

[hmower]

That's interesting! Considering you and I don't know each other

I think he's screwing with u dude. You'll get some gains from doing 250 mg a week but prob not as much as you would like. Im not sure of ur goals. But at 250 mg/wk you'll be looking at several times over what ur body would be producing naturally

 

[gamer2be08]

I say 400mg minimum..

Normal levels are like 100mg test a week..

Some people blow up on test, some dont get jack sh!t from test..

 

[Aldross]

Looks fine if you just look at it like a cruise.
SD wk 1-3
Test 1-10
Hdrol 7-12
Then jump into PCT since you're clear of the Test by this point.

 

[lennoxchi]

wolfe you're going to do you're 1st inject cycle ever and do it half ass.

here's what i see. you're going to start taking the test and love it and suddenly realize you will not have enough to do the job properly and become disappointed. will you get some results? probably, but nowhere the gains you will want or should get.

remember something. there's nothing like you're 1st and if it sucks it's a waste.

 

[standoe3]

yeah normal and your own body test is better and more potent....compared to synthetic which is why people get the right amount of test then run it.

 

[wolfe14]

I think he's screwing with u dude. You'll get some gains from doing 250 mg a week but prob not as much as you would like. Im not sure of ur goals. But at 250 mg/wk you'll be looking at several times over what ur body would be producing naturally

Thanks! my plans were to run 4 wks of SD at 20 mg...That and 250 mg of test should def put on some size, wouldn't you think?

 

[Wudog]

Thanks! my plans were to run 4 wks of SD at 20 mg...That and 250 mg of test should def put on some size, wouldn't you think?

YOu will get the size from mostly the SD....the Test at those levels may help with libido and keeping the size you gained; but you won't see a significant increase after the SD is done. That is just my opinion. I would honestly just find a source; get another bottle and run Test by itself. See how you respond to it. If you can get another bottle and increase the dosage you may respond very well to the Test. Then you can use that response and cycle as a base for all others you put together.

 

[wolfe14]

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! i may just run SD for 4 weeks at 20 mg...Wait till i get another vial to run the test..But i wanted to keep my gains after cycle is over as i know SD gains are sometimes hard to keep, that is why i was gonna incorporate a low dose of test..

 

[wolfe14]

maybe i could run androhard with the SD????

 

[Aaelael]

maybe i could run androhard with the SD????

If your looking for a cycle to run with SD you could run bold. . bold and sd would we a nice stack there. . .i have seen ppl run sd and run it into EPI as well. . nice anti estrog effects with estane. . .that will help you keep your hard earned gains. . .running some forme would help as well. . .your options are limited but since you were considering doing an inject cycle the options are quite vast!

 

[mooch2321]

I say 400mg minimum..

Normal levels are like 100mg test a week..

Some people blow up on test, some dont get jack sh!t from test..

normal is closer to like 35mgs of endogenous test produced a day.......just sayin :bigok:

 

[gamer2be08]

normal is closer to like 35mgs of endogenous test produced a day.......just sayin :bigok:

When you say "normal", you are talking about higher than the highest TRT levels :bigok:

245mg of pure test a week is normal, then sign me up for life

 

[mooch2321]

When you say "normal", you are talking about higher than the highest TRT levels :bigok:

245mg of pure test a week is normal, then sign me up for life

sorry that was a week not a day......typo:ntome:

 

[gamer2be08]

sorry that was a week not a day......typo:ntome:

lol.. But im pretty sure I saw like 40-100mg per week, 100 being the high point..

 

[mooch2321]

lots of variables, but range should be 5-12mgs a day, 12 being extremely high.

 

[wolfe14]

Ok so thank you everyone for all your input, I've made my decision to wait and get another vial of test.....

My plans are to run Superdrone by PP along with AndroHard for 4 weeks...I have ran SD in the past with good results but never ran the AH...I have all my supports and I'm ready to run Sept 1st..But first has anyone ran AH yet and what would be the best way to run this along with SD????

 

[lennoxchi]

Ok so thank you everyone for all your input, I've made my decision to wait and get another vial of test.....

My plans are to run Superdrone by PP along with AndroHard for 4 weeks...I have ran SD in the past with good results but never ran the AH...I have all my supports and I'm ready to run Sept 1st..But first has anyone ran AH yet and what would be the best way to run this along with SD????

you have made a good choice. you'll see....

 

[B5150]

:deal:

Remember that that table is crude, but the table says that 200mg/week testosterone injections should raise your TT~1340ng/dL
======================================================

Someones response may be different,
higher, if his testis are still producing
higher, if he draws blood shortly after the shot
lower, if he draws blood week or two after the shot
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I developed that table for my self.
I was transferring from transdermal to injections, my testis were shot, non-existing, after over 2 years on transdermals and no HCG.
I used EOD schedule.
Blood draw 24 hrs after the T-shot.
My experience follows that table.
Error about 30%

Someone who's SHBG=44
have no working testis,
and who is planning to have FreeT~300 per chart
would be justified to use that much testosterone on his first try.
After that he would adjust his dose per blood test.

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DepoT TotalT SHBG FreeT SHBG FreeT
25 353 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
30 381 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
35 410 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
40 438 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
45 466 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
50 494 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
55 522 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
60 551 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
65 579 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
70 607 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
75 635 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
80 663 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
85 692 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
90 720 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
95 748 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
100 776 xx5 300 14.4 250
105 805 xx7 300 16.5 250
110 833 xx9 300 18.6 250
115 861 10.8 300 20.7 250
120 889 xx13 300 xx23 250
125 917 xx15 300 xx25 250
130 946 16.7 300 x27.3 250
135 974 18.7 300 x29.4 250
140 1002 xx21 300 x31.5 250
145 1030 22.6 300 x33.5 250
150 1058 24.5 300 x35.6 250
155 1087 26.4 300 xx38 250
160 1115 28.4 300 xx40 250
165 1143 30.4 300 x42.2 250
170 1171 32.3 300 x44.4 250
175 1199 34.3 300 x46.3 250
180 1228 36.3 300 x48.5 250
185 1256 38.2 300 x50.7 250
190 1284 xx40 300 x52.8 250
195 1312 xxxx 300 xx55 250
200 1340 xx44 300 xx57 250
205 1369 xxxx 300 x59.3 250
210 1397 xx48 300 x61.5 250
215 1425 xxxx 300 x63.4 250
220 1453 51.7 300 xxxx 250
225 1481 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
230 1510 55.6 300 xxxx 250
235 1538 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
240 1566 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
245 1594 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
250 1622 63.5 300 xxxx 250
255 1651 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
260 1679 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
265 1707 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
270 1735 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
275 1763 xxxx 300 xxxx 250

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[CCV3]

I would just save bottle until I could get my hands on more.
250mg a week for 10 weeks is a waste.

Half a CC twice a week?

I couldnt even imagine injecting .5

 

[wolfe14]

im on week 6 of my test E cycle, and now thinking of an oral to run at end of cycle to harden up gains and lose a little BF....i have epi and turinabol lv....which should i use??? and what is the best way to incorporate it into cycle???

 

[pillsRgood]

your on week 6 of test e and are thinking of running test c....Im confused, you setting up for a future cycle or planning on skipping pct and running back to back cycles?

 

[timmmah]

im on week 6 of my test E cycle, and now thinking of an oral to run at end of cycle to harden up gains and lose a little BF....i have epi and turinabol lv....which should i use??? and what is the best way to incorporate it into cycle???

Steroids don't make fat go away. Incorporate cardio as HIIT and look into a paleo diet.

 

[wolfe14]

your on week 6 of test e and are thinking of running test c....Im confused, you setting up for a future cycle or planning on skipping pct and running back to back cycles?

Lol no...im running 12 weeks test E...i have everything i need for a very effective pct....i was just thinking of running an oral towards the end to harden up gains, thats all...read my last post..any suggestions?

 

[wolfe14]

Steroids don't make fat go away. Incorporate cardio as HIIT and look into a paleo diet.

thanks for the news...im NOT fat, prob around 14% right now...i was just looking for something to lean out and harden up my gains towards the end of cycle

 

[timmmah]

thanks for the news...im NOT fat, prob around 14% right now...i was just looking for something to lean out and harden up my gains towards the end of cycle

I wasn't calling you fat. You said you were looking for an oral to run at the end of your cycle to harden up gains and lose a little BF.

The only way to lose fat is to be at a calorie deficit so that your body feeds on it's reserves(Fat)for energy. This is done with diet and cardio, not steroids.

 

[SoCalMuscle]

your on week 6 of test e and are thinking of running test c....Im confused, you setting up for a future cycle or planning on skipping pct and running back to back cycles?

did you run it at 250mg? how are your gains going at that dose if so?

 

[wolfe14]

did you run it at 250mg? how are your gains going at that dose if so?

no i decided to go with 500 per everyones reccommendations...i kickstarted with SD so im only on 1 1/2 wks of test alone so we shall see how the run goes...so far so good! i see i'm not gonna get any answers on the oral at the close of cycle so i will decided on my own

 

[CCV3]

I've always like Stano towards the end.
That always hardened me up, even on a bulk.

 

[wolfe14]

I've always like Stano towards the end.
That always hardened me up, even on a bulk.

yeah i thought of that.. was probably gonna go the ph route, i have EPI and turinabol lv on hand...which should i use?