Pretty deep thought/questions on teens using gear
- 07-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Pretty deep thought/questions on teens using gear
Ok well i have been thinking lately with all of these aas/PH side effect threads popping up, you always hear people saying "Your too young, wait till your 21, etc..". Well then on the other hand you hear all these stories about kids 15, 16, 17, 18, etc. taking PH or even AAS. Well What are some bad things that could happen to some of these kids (that wouldnt really happen to us because we are matured).
Some possible things i was thinking of is, say a kid does a cycle, doesnt do a pct, say at age 15 maybe 16, and is shutdown during their puberty stages where test is extremely vital. Could this effect his maturation such as in, organ size, testosterone levels/estrogen levels throughout the rest of their lives, penile/prostate growth, bone/muscle/vein growth, etc.?
Just some things i never really see discussed that seem pretty intresting/ alerting. especially to young teens that come on these forums to look for info.
- 07-29-2010, 01:19 PM
Also, could it cause them to say not finish puberty fully? and be stuck like that for life?
- 07-29-2010, 01:24 PM
dude, not to be a **** or anything, but you sound like a teen who wants to use aas and is using the whole "hypothetical" or my favorite "my friend wants to know..." thing. this has been covered to death. use the search bar
07-29-2010, 01:26 PM
07-29-2010, 01:33 PM
07-29-2010, 01:52 PM
07-29-2010, 02:30 PM
I hate when AM users tell a member of the forum over and over again they are too young, etc. and refuse to help them. I mean, thats good advice to give, but when the kid starts another thread a week later, whats the point in throwing the same spew at him again? I mean, yes, its bad for 16 year olds to run SD, but you know what, they do it. Its like saying we should just tell our youth "No SEX" and leave it at that. Come on, we know kids are gonna screw, so we give them options like condoms, birth control, provide them with sex ed. We need to have the same kinda mindset on here. All the kids we flame, well, you know what? They run the cycle anyhow. The way they want to. Usually with no PCT or the wrong dosage. They say "Hell, I asked for advice and nobody helped me aside to say dont do it". We all remember what it was like to be 16. We knew better than everybody else, and were gonna do what we wanted to do. IMO we should give a serious warning, scare the hell out of the kid, but at the same time, educate them on "If you do do it, you MUST do such and such".
If I read one more "How old are you, whats your stats" response to a question, I might poke out my eyes.
07-29-2010, 02:31 PM
There is nothing magical about being 21. It is not like the body knows you turned 21 so it is now OK to do steroids. All the risks that apply to an 18 year old could apply to a 21 year old. It just depends on your body.
07-29-2010, 02:34 PM
07-29-2010, 02:37 PM
07-29-2010, 02:38 PM
07-29-2010, 02:51 PM
Have you tried some of the test boosters?
07-29-2010, 02:56 PM
07-29-2010, 02:58 PM
07-29-2010, 03:00 PM
Do a search on Sustain Alpha. I've read good things about it, but I have not used it myself.
07-29-2010, 03:52 PM
I fell like this thread is turning into my old one where i posted my bloodwork and such, and not focusing on the main topic tho...eh wth this is AM what did i expect
07-29-2010, 04:52 PM
Ask the Russians this one. Read an article; I believe it was in Nat Geo. About how Russia created a sort of freakish dying society of former teen atheletes who were part of a state sponsored sports group taking steroids to beat everyone at the Olympics in the 80's. Now these people are dying off from every sort of ailment as are their children.
07-29-2010, 05:06 PM
07-29-2010, 05:15 PM
07-29-2010, 05:19 PM
07-29-2010, 05:31 PM
07-29-2010, 06:31 PM
07-29-2010, 06:32 PM
I don't think anyone knows what going to happen to people that cycled too early. Didn't arnold start juicing when he was in his teens? He is still alive and kicking.
I was fully grown when I was in 7th grade(I was 13). I always thought the 21 argument was based on most people are grown by then. I cycled for the first time when I was 19. I'm pretty sure I'm going to die early, but it has nothing to do with the age in which I first cycled.
07-29-2010, 06:35 PM
07-29-2010, 07:21 PM
I know a 16 YO at my gym, just turned 16 that is on his 6th or 7th PH/DS... He is 5 foot 4 inches and about 125lbs.. The thing is, he knows he is taking roids, not just supplements..
Then there was this 19YO thats been cycling since he was 17 and uses OTC PCTs for test cycles..
Oh ya, pretty much all the teenybops at my gym are on the sauce..
07-29-2010, 07:43 PM
wow- just wow
This makes me glad I stuck to Crystal Extacy and Pills/Pot when I was younger
Although that wrecked my life too- my body has recoverd from it
juice at 16- just WOW
07-29-2010, 07:43 PM
Ive always wanted to studies of teens on roids (such as test e, dbol, deca, etc...a REAL cycle lol) and see bloodwork done the whole time to see the results....and then a follow up say 5 - 10 years later. And by teen i mean young like 15 or 16. Hell i wonder if it was just a test cycle, would it speed up the puberty process for the 3 months or so, or maybe halt it due to natural shutdown? these are the type of things i was wondering when i first made this. its pretty interesting as most aas studies are done on people 21 and up.
07-29-2010, 07:46 PM
07-29-2010, 07:48 PM
Also, the reason peoples growth plates get closed on an AROMATIZING cycle is because of the excess estro. If they were to take an estro blocker on cycle, that problem would be solved.
07-29-2010, 07:53 PM
Hmm i never knew that was the reason the growth plates stopped. I thought it tied into the whole thing i was just talking about, as in speeding up puberty so it tricks your body into thinking your at your peak, or even done, so therefore it closes the plates. the opposite of HGH.
07-29-2010, 07:54 PM
07-29-2010, 07:57 PM
07-30-2010, 05:38 AM
i have a friend who did part of and oral cycle(dont know what it was) at 16, his strength shot up, lost fat and gained a fair bit of muscle but then he just stopped taking them. no pct (hadnt even heard of it). now he is rather pudgy, no idea about his junk, we arent THAT close.
I look back on it now and wish that i could have stopped him doing it or at least have him do it properly. I dont think roids at a young age is a good idea at all, but if someone is going to then at least try to make sure they do it right.
07-30-2010, 06:54 AM
yeah, anavar started right before or as puberty starts will signficantly increase penis size....
07-30-2010, 08:33 AM
07-30-2010, 11:44 AM
07-30-2010, 12:43 PM
I think it has more to do with var acting like a DHT, an increase of overall androgenic activity vs anabolic activity.
07-30-2010, 12:51 PM
07-30-2010, 12:56 PM
No telling for sure. Doctors can use var to force onset of puberty at 15 if a boy hasn't started to show signs by then, and the doctor has some sense. But with the OTC stuff, actually phera is as illegal as var so i'd just go with var
07-30-2010, 01:01 PM
The reason i said dbol because i was reading a post the other day saying that if you take 10mg dbol upon waking it tricks your body into thinking it is part of your morning LH test release, therefore your body thinks that its it own test, and therefore wont shut you down, and could even raise test levels.
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