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    "Safest" Anabolic


    Just wondering if there is one that is "safer" than others.
    Just looking to put on a little extra muscle mass..5-8 pounds of lean.

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    none of them are "dangerous" if done correctly


    although 80% of the people I know do not do them correctly

    I myself have been tempted to abuse and nearly did so


    Research for a while-read up on epistane and halodrol for your goals of 5-8
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html
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    Food.
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    For only 5-8 lbs (personally) I woulnt go the anabolic route, I would look for a good weight gainer, or like Aldross said up your calorie intake! I just finished a 9 lb tub of Inner Aumor's Mass peak (I'm not sayin its all lean-muscle mass) but it definitely helped me throw on some extra weight. Thats IMO of course
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    Most are "safe" if you know what your doing.

    If you want to go the PH way, a pretty safe one that is very mild is h-drol. You could gain that 5-8 pounds you want.
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    Ok bro I just read through your thread "32 year old male" and what I'm about to state may sound like bashing but it isn't I just want to help.

    #1 You do not have anywhere near a good enough natural base to even consider PH/DS.

    #2 The term hard gainer is BS. I know some will say they don't gain weight no matter what. Guess what those who say that are wronge. 6 years ago I though I was one, I weighted 137lbs. Diet Diet Diet, that is everything.

    #3 You say your calories never go out of control. That is a big issue you need them way up there. I'm talking 4000cal a day.

    #4 The workout routine you spoke about will get you nothing. You have to lift big to get big. Start using free weights Total Gym is only to be used when you are out of town and thats all they have at your hotel.

    #5 You are looking for a short cut and AAS is not a way to cut corners.

    #6 You stated that you do not want look like a bodybuilder because it is to much work to maintain, cmon guy how do you think you will gain if you are not willing to bust your a$$.


    Now to point you in the right direction.

    #1 Go buy whey protein, creatine mono, and maybe a nutrient partitioner.

    #2 Find a better workout routine. Look up starting strength or maybe a 5x5 routine. Don't touch the Total Gym again.

    #3 EAT. You need a high carb high calorie diet. Whole grain pastas, oats, and greens. These things are your new best friends. Ask yourself this "Do the guys on this forum really like chicken and pasta so much they want to eat it 2-3 times a GD day?"

    #4 Last and final comment. Forget that you ever considered running a steroid of any type what so ever. You are far from ready.

    Point of the post
    EATING BIG+LIFTING BIG+TIME=GOALS ATTAINED
    Last edited by Aldross; 07-25-2010 at 05:39 AM. Reason: Typos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldross View Post
    Food.
    I've always hated that sarcastic answer.. Op is not a kid and he's not asking about food, he wants to play it safe and go on a mild cycle.
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    And h-drol is pretty mild for a methyl..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldross View Post
    Food.
    you're that guy huh
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    without the proper diet and training, Steroids will do nothing for you..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    without the proper diet and training, Steroids will do nothing for you..
    Yes.. But your assuming op is an idiot and dosen't know this.. And the fact that he's asking about the safest most mild ph/ps shows he's on the responsible intelligent side..
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    It's not like he's asking if it's ok to stack m1t, superdrol and pheraplex..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldross View Post
    Ok bro I just read through your thread "32 year old male" and what I'm about to state may sound like bashing but it isn't I just want to help.

    #1 You do not have anywhere near a good enough natural base to even consider PH/DS.

    #2 The term hard gainer is BS. I know some will say they don't gain weight no matter what. Guess what those who say that are wronge. 6 years ago I though I was one, I weighted 137lbs. Diet Diet Diet, that is everything.

    #3 You say your calories never go out of control. That is a big issue you need them way up there. I'm talking 4000cal a day.

    #4 The workout routine you spoke about will get you nothing. You have to lift big to get big. Start using free weights Total Gym is only to be used when you are out of town and thats all they have at your hotel.

    #5 You are looking for a short cut and AAS is not a way to cut corners.

    #6 You stated that you do not want look like a bodybuilder because it is to much work to maintain, cmon guy how do you think you will gain if you are not willing to bust your a$$.


    Now to point you in the right direction.

    #1 Go buy whey protein, creatine mono, and maybe a nutrient partitioner.

    #2 Find a better workout routine. Look up starting strength or maybe a 5x5 routine. Don't touch the Total Gym again.

    #3 EAT. You need a high carb high calorie diet. Whole grain pastas, oats, and greens. These things are your new best friends. Ask yourself this "Do the guys on this forum really like chicken and pasta so much they want to eat it 2-3 times a GD day?"

    #4 Last and final comment. Forget that you ever considered running a steroid of any type what so ever. You are far from ready.

    Point of the post
    EATING BIG+LIFTING BIG+TIME=GOALS ATTAINED
    This is a great post!

    Most people start up anabolics before they even realize how to run a successful bulk. OP am I to take it that you've got some crap routine and you're not even using free weights? Jesus dude, get serious about your training first.

    Aldross you summed it up nicely. I think bulking is pretty easy (when you're so small that fat isn't a major concern yet). Lift big and eat big is exactly it. Get yourself sore by pounding huge weights and fill up the soreness with excess calories. SIMPLE recipe.
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    Who are you UnrealMaachine to say when a 30 year man is ready?? Did some as..shole know it all tell you when you were ready to take steroids?? Op seems like he wants to play it safe so wht not give him the benefit of the doubt
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    Who are you UnrealMaachine to say when a 30 year man is ready?? Did some as..shole know it all tell you when you were ready to take steroids?? Op seems like he wants to play it safe so wht not give him the benefit of the doubt
    pump the brakes bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    Who are you UnrealMaachine to say when a 30 year man is ready?? Did some as..shole know it all tell you when you were ready to take steroids?? Op seems like he wants to play it safe so wht not give him the benefit of the doubt
    I'm not reaching out through the Internet and stopping him, I'm giving him advice because I know more than him.

    Oh when I started I didn't need to make a thread to figure it out, I already had cycling all figured out. I still wish I had waited longer though, because I've learned a lot more about myself since then.

    Easy come, easy go... if this guy doesn't know how to train, then steroids aren't going to provide LONG TERM gains.
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    Steroids FTW brother, thats all you need. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post


    Steroids FTW brother, thats all you need. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
    ripped bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    you're that guy huh
    I am rarely "that guy" but this time I was.

    Food is the most anabolic compound you can put in your body.

    I'm sorry if you guys on here feel that was a smart a$$ comment but cmon can you really feel right helping build a cycle for a guy that weights 158lbs and has no interest in training hard.

    Like I said in my next post down I'm not trying to be a d!ck I really do want to help and if he posts in here again looking for advice I will continue to help him in my way.

    OP if any of this bothers you say so and I won't post in your threads anymore.

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    he asked a question...just answer it. you don't know if he trains hard, loves knitting, has his diet in order. if he wants a shortcut so be it..it's the reason steroids were invented.

    it's his money..and body. food will only get u so far...there is so much more than what u said. he asked for lean muscle...takes some knowledge if going the natty route to achieve that.
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    That is the reason that right after I posted that I felt kinda like an a$$ for leaving a 1 word remark.

    All the info I spoke about in my 2nd post was all info the OP provided. He covered his diet training and fortitude in a post from less than a week ago. I didn't use Unreals crystal ball(mainly because I didn't want to mess up and see gamers future, hearing about it was enough) .
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    That all that food bs talking to the nutirtion section. this here is the anabolic section!

    To answer your question some good mild ones would be

    H-drol/ Real Turinabol
    Anavar
    Epistane
    P-stanz
    etc.
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    i am so tired of hearing lean muscle. Muscle is lean. If it's not lean, then it's not muscle. PERIOD.

    There's no such thing as building lean muscle. There's building muscle, and trying to keep fat off, or losing fat. But it's not like there's two types of muscle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    i am so tired of hearing lean muscle. Muscle is lean. If it's not lean, then it's not muscle. PERIOD.

    There's no such thing as building lean muscle. There's building muscle, and trying to keep fat off, or losing fat. But it's not like there's two types of muscle.
    ahem....

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    smartypants eh! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldross View Post
    Ok bro I just read through your thread "32 year old male" and what I'm about to state may sound like bashing but it isn't I just want to help.

    #1 You do not have anywhere near a good enough natural base to even consider PH/DS.

    #2 The term hard gainer is BS. I know some will say they don't gain weight no matter what. Guess what those who say that are wronge. 6 years ago I though I was one, I weighted 137lbs. Diet Diet Diet, that is everything.

    #3 You say your calories never go out of control. That is a big issue you need them way up there. I'm talking 4000cal a day.

    #4 The workout routine you spoke about will get you nothing. You have to lift big to get big. Start using free weights Total Gym is only to be used when you are out of town and thats all they have at your hotel.

    #5 You are looking for a short cut and AAS is not a way to cut corners.

    #6 You stated that you do not want look like a bodybuilder because it is to much work to maintain, cmon guy how do you think you will gain if you are not willing to bust your a$$.


    Now to point you in the right direction.

    #1 Go buy whey protein, creatine mono, and maybe a nutrient partitioner.

    #2 Find a better workout routine. Look up starting strength or maybe a 5x5 routine. Don't touch the Total Gym again.

    #3 EAT. You need a high carb high calorie diet. Whole grain pastas, oats, and greens. These things are your new best friends. Ask yourself this "Do the guys on this forum really like chicken and pasta so much they want to eat it 2-3 times a GD day?"

    #4 Last and final comment. Forget that you ever considered running a steroid of any type what so ever. You are far from ready.

    Point of the post
    EATING BIG+LIFTING BIG+TIME=GOALS ATTAINED
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    without the proper diet and training, Steroids will do nothing for you..
    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    This is a great post!

    Most people start up anabolics before they even realize how to run a successful bulk. OP am I to take it that you've got some crap routine and you're not even using free weights? Jesus dude, get serious about your training first.

    Aldross you summed it up nicely. I think bulking is pretty easy (when you're so small that fat isn't a major concern yet). Lift big and eat big is exactly it. Get yourself sore by pounding huge weights and fill up the soreness with excess calories. SIMPLE recipe.
    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    i am so tired of hearing lean muscle. Muscle is lean. If it's not lean, then it's not muscle. PERIOD.

    There's no such thing as building lean muscle. There's building muscle, and trying to keep fat off, or losing fat. But it's not like there's two types of muscle.
    Sorry for the LONG ASS quotes but GOOD POST... /thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    he asked a question...just answer it. you don't know if he trains hard, loves knitting, has his diet in order. if he wants a shortcut so be it..it's the reason steroids were invented.

    it's his money..and body. food will only get u so far...there is so much more than what u said. he asked for lean muscle...takes some knowledge if going the natty route to achieve that.
    OK I'll play. Youre right he asked a question but for the sake of OP's well being, and long term progress these guys do have a point. We don't know exactly what this guy eats or does in the gym, but if his picture is a good measure, it doesn't look like much. I don't believe in hard gainers either. Im not in tip top shape but hell I have a solid routine and a good base to cut down to. That dude is SKINNY.
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    I saw his diet and workout in another thread...he's not ready
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    Hardly any sides at all with SARMs

    Anavar is another good one. But I dont like being shutdown
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    Any experienced past users ever use a light prohormone etc. After a 6 month layoff to kickstart one's motivation back into a training routine.
    Not highjakling, just wondering, and, how is this different than what the OP wants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    Any experienced past users ever use a light prohormone etc. After a 6 month layoff to kickstart one's motivation back into a training routine.
    Not highjakling, just wondering, and, how is this different than what the OP wants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldross View Post
    Food.
    I can attest to this man. Food is the best ****ing steroid I ever tried. It was all prompted by my semi-failed m-drol cycle. I started eating right and I feel like superman even in pct.
    Dude 5-8 lbs would be easy if you listen to these guys about how to eat.
  

  
 

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