1st Post and new cycle

[Rockneee]

Is used to use the old PH's like below.

Mohn-xt 16-20mg AM 3 capsules (4mg) PM 3 capsules (would like 3x daily @ 24mg)
17a methyl 3 oxo 19 norandrosiene-4, 17 diol
Methyl 1 (IDS) AM 2 capsules
17-alpha-methyl 1 testerone
Sci Fit 17-Methyl D AM 2 capsules
17a methyl 17b hydroxyestra 4,9 (10) dien 3 one
and
1AD 1 capsule AM and 1 capsule PM

For about 4weeks cycles. I did not do my research back then and only the last 2 months have I researched enough to know. WOW, I still have normal liver enzymes. This was without liver support on PCT and OTC PCT (basics).

I still have too many of the Mohn-xt in stock a long with the Sci-Fit above. Believe it or not i trashed the Methyl 1 (IDS) and all of my Legal Gear Methyl 1 Alpha and P.

I am 6ft, and weigh 192 at 43yo. Been lifting since 18yo. Only PH I have taken are the ones above. Which did work pretty good actually. Hated the Legal Gear though, They just seem to wipe me out. I had my Blood work done now 2 times and Liver enzyme are normal, had them done with 3 weeks inbetween.
I am looking at a new cycle below (not including any of my old PH's above). I am taking OTC for Post Cycle. I have already read at many different places that it truly is not the way to go. I am waiting on Clomid and Nolv but not holding my breath. I am hoping 6-oxo and Nolv XT by Gaspari will be sufficient. Inhibit E may not be needed? Please comment on the cycle below.
I have Powerful as well but do not think it is needed with this unless I would be doing Tren.

GAT Clomadrol
Weeks 1-5 (250mg) AM 3 capsule PM 2 capsules
Havoc (try taking before workout)
1st 2 days 20mg 2 days // AM 1 capsule // PM 1 capsules
Week 1 Then 30mg daily AM 2 capsule PM 1 capsules

Week 2 30mg daily AM 2 capsule PM 1 capsules

Week 3 30mg daily AM 2 capsule PM 1 capsules

Week 4 40mg each day AM 2 capsule PM 2 capsules

During Cycle
1)Cycle Assist AM 4 capsule PM 4 capsule
2)Liv.52 AM 2 capsule PM 1or2capsules
3)Saw Palmetto AM 4 capsule
4)Taurine AM 1 capsule PM 1 capsule
5)SAMe AM 1 capsule
6)CoQ10 AM 1 capsule PM 1 capsule
7)(ALA) AM 1 capsule PM 1 capsule
8)Joint Formula
9)Michaels BP AM 1 capsule PM 1 capsule
10)Himalaya BP AM 1 capsule PM 1 capsule
11)Fish Oil AM 2 capsule PM 2 capsule
12)Choles V cap AM 3 capsule PM 3 capsule
13)Liver Longer AM 1 capsule PM 1 capsule

Post Cycle
AM
DHEA AM 1 Capsule
T-Bomb II AM 2 Capsules
Alpha Lipoic Acid AM 1 Capsule 600mg
C0Q10 AM 1 Capsule
Advanced PCT (Anabolic Xtreme) AM 2 Capsules
No Flush Niacin AM 1 Capsule
Liv.52 by Himalaya AM 1 Capsule (1 or 2 capsules twice per day)
Cycle Assist (liver) AM 4 Capsules
Inhibit E AM 1 Capsule
(Week 3) Lean Xtreme AM 1 capsule 2-4 times per day. For best results, ensure that one dose is taken upon waking and another four hours after

PM PM
Tribulus PM 1 tab 1000mg
(Week 3 to7) 6-oxo PM 3 capsules (3-6 capsules)
Advanced PCT (Anabolic Xtreme) PM 1 capsules
Alpha Lipoic Acid PM 1 Capsule 600mg
Liv.52 by Himalaya PM 1 Capsule (1 or 2 capsules twice per day)
C0Q10 PM 1 Capsule
Cycle Assist (liver) PM 4 Capsules
Gaspari Nutrition Novedex XT PM 2 to 4 capsules at night
(starting 2nd day after cycle)
Week 1 (starting 2nd day) 4 capsules at night
Week 2 3 capsules at night
Week 3 2 capsules at night
Week 4 1 capsules at night

 

[Aldross]

Epi has been know to shut you down hard.
Please do not do this cycle without a SERM.
They are so easy to get and cost so little.
Do your body a favor, treat it right.

 

[cowboy007]

Damn.. that post made my head hurt

 

[schwellington]

epi will shut u down- not like SD or m14add or Tren- but shut down is shut down

Get a serm


Bump ur dosing up at 20 mgs its going to do estrogen control- and thats about it
maybe slight anabolic activities since it is a steroid


I ran this compound at 50 mgs for 5 weeks and I was fine


I do have proper pct lined up too though

 

[Rockneee]

I will wait on the SERM, alot seem to be in agreement on that. I thought really the OTC SERM would be good enough. Hard enough to keep the old 6-oxo around ;-)

With waiting on Correct PCT (Not OTC) it would look like.
Clomid
Day 1 & 2 150-200mg.
Week 1: 100mg
Week 2: 50mg
Week 3: 25mg

or

Nolva 20/20/10/10

 

[Nothingman]

ill waTCH BRO

 

[Aldross]

I will wait on the SERM, alot seem to be in agreement on that. I thought really the OTC SERM would be good enough. Hard enough to keep the old 6-oxo around ;-)

With waiting on Correct PCT (Not OTC) it would look like.
Clomid
Day 1 & 2 150-200mg.
Week 1: 100mg
Week 2: 50mg
Week 3: 25mg

or

Nolva 20/20/10/10

Clomid
Day 1-2 100mg
Week 1-2 50 mg
Week 3-4 25 mg
Do that and you will be set. No need to super dose for a full week IMO.

 

[UnrealMachine]

on my next PCT i'm going to do a little experiment and high dose clomid the whole time

300 to start with. then i'll run 150 and taper to 125/100/75.

Then i'll get bloodwork done.

 

[Rockneee]

Clomid
Day 1-2 100mg
Week 1-2 50 mg
Week 3-4 25 mg
Do that and you will be set. No need to super dose for a full week IMO.

I do like the looks of that. I really do not like Nolv but will use it if I have to. I can deal with Clomid, but would want to get off it as soon as possible. I am going to continue some/most of my other PCT like T-Bomb II, Advanced PCT (Anabolic Xtreme), Tribulus, Cycle Assist, and of course the liver sup's.

I also have IGF-1 LR3 but not sure if I want to start that after this.

 

[Aldross]

I do like the looks of that. I really do not like Nolv but will use it if I have to. I can deal with Clomid, but would want to get off it as soon as possible. I am going to continue some/most of my other PCT like T-Bomb II, Advanced PCT (Anabolic Xtreme), Tribulus, Cycle Assist, and of course the liver sup's.

I also have IGF-1 LR3 but not sure if I want to start that after this.

Yea I wasn't meaning pull all the other stuff I just wanted to let you know you didn't need a full week at 100mg and to extend 1 week. I am a big fan of everything + the kitchen sink for PCT.