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RaW stack...

I think that this goes on A LOT. There's a lot of newer, smaller supplement companies that are making "stacks" of different compounds and they make a supposed ALL IN ONE OTC.. And from what ive seen some people turn out fine, which makes me doubt the strength/purity of the PH product. I think its bad practice, but it goes on everywhere
 
SouthernCharm said:
I think that this goes on A LOT. There's a lot of newer, smaller supplement companies that are making "stacks" of different compounds and they make a supposed ALL IN ONE OTC.. And from what ive seen some people turn out fine, which makes me doubt the strength/purity of the PH product. I think its bad practice, but it goes on everywhere
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Yeah I mean i'm all about PHs....but it's **** like this that is gonna cause even more bans. I wish companies would just make single quality compounds and sell them at a decent price. CEL why oh why did you have to discontinue your sh!t??

And that PCT they have in there is complete garbage and no on cycle support.
 
I know man... It's sad that theyre doing it for a quick buck. personally Im in retail and we make an honest living because we sell things that i know are gonna help people. If i had a supplement shop I would not carry PHs because there's always gonna be someone who wants to go all out and the kid prolly weighs a buck fifty... And I wouldnt wanna be responsible for selling something that can screw someone up.

I KNOW CEL BRING EM BACK!!!! Im on a bridge right now, ran ssl's sd at 30 mgs and ibe's epi, and ran out so im using cels estane and its working just fine, i wish theyd give their products ONE MORE RUN ;)
 
Im not for the stack products but these r tame compared to others I have seen. Not the worst combos and the dosing isnt retarded. Not something I would recommend to 1st timers which seems to be the target audience since they r going for the "want to go from a mouse to a MONSTER in one cycle" category. I will say they did actually discuss what their product is better than most which isnt saying much.
 
Hey guys im a noob to prohormones and actually ordered some of those raw pro hormones Darkhalf mentioned. I haven't used them yet though. I ordered them because im stuck at 225. I am an ectomorph and intake thousands of calories per day and was hoping this might help me break through this plateau. I googled each ingredient in the product and the stack doesn't seem to bad to me however like i mentioned before i am a noob when it comes to prohormones. Do you guys recommend not even wasting my time with them or maybe cycling them with a on cycle support, if so what product(s). I was going to cycle them with milk thistle, NAC, and a liver cleanse i got from GNC. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
TheDarkHalf said:
Yeah I mean i'm all about PHs....but it's **** like this that is gonna cause even more bans. I wish companies would just make single quality compounds and sell them at a decent price. CEL why oh why did you have to discontinue your sh!t??

And that PCT they have in there is complete garbage and no on cycle support.
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CEL got hit up because of the bust against *************. there was a whole news report about some guy being sent to the hospital because he was having liver failure and side effects from using (i think m-drol?)...and it was probably the morons fault, was probably using like 6 a day for 2 months.


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Well i bought some at a discounted price then what shows on the website at the top of the thread. I read Dr. D's post about pulsing pro hormones. So this is what i was thinking of doing with this product to get the best results and lowest possibility of sides.

Day 1: 1 capsule before workout and then 1 directly after
Day 2: Off training / Liver support supps
Day 3: Off training / Liver support supps
Day 4: Repeat day 1

Do this for several weeks start pct that comes with it.

Whats your honest opinion? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Lightweight1 said:
Well i bought some at a discounted price then what shows on the website at the top of the thread. I read Dr. D's post about pulsing pro hormones. So this is what i was thinking of doing with this product to get the best results and lowest possibility of sides.

Day 1: 1 capsule before workout and then 1 directly after
Day 2: Off training / Liver support supps
Day 3: Off training / Liver support supps
Day 4: Repeat day 1

Do this for several weeks start pct that comes with it.

Whats your honest opinion? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Im also thinking about doing this. Any results?
 
Dumbellz said:
Im also thinking about doing this. Any results?
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I tried pulsing these for a week and felt nothing.

Then i just ran them as directed for 3 or so weeks. I gained no weight and maybe only a slight strength increase. I did lean out a bit but that wasnt what i was going for. (Raw 1 is supposed to bulk) I ended up returning the Raw 2 and PCT it came with and ran a SERM, AI, and HCGenerate for PCT instead.

I believe that there is hormones in the product since my boys did shrink a bit while i was on and i was a bit more vascular throughout the cycle. I just think Im a poor responder to RAW 1 which if i remember is EPI and HALO.

But as others mentioned upon these are way overpriced and are pre-blended compared to what else is available.

Hope that helps.
 
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