Can You Stack M4ohn??????
- 05-21-2004, 02:23 PM
- 05-21-2004, 09:23 PM
- 05-21-2004, 09:27 PM
05-22-2004, 01:27 AM
05-22-2004, 01:45 AM
I just started my 2nd cycle (500mg/wk ICN Test Enanthate). I'm very tempted to throw in some M4OHN. Im trying to get leaner on this cycle and if it has ANY true Anavar like effects it could really help. QV's new Anavar was the cheapest Var I could get and I still just couldnt justify spending that much on 20-25mg/day for only 4 weeks or so. I would LOVE to try Var @ 40-50mg/day for 5-6 weeks.
What do you guys think? M4OHN a Waste of money? Would I even notice it on 500mg/wk Test. I've never been tempted by prohormones before but Methyl-D got my attention and now M4OHN has really peaked my interest (or curiosity).
That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche
05-22-2004, 08:34 AM
day 9 of M4OHN........if there ever was a PH that gave steroid like results, this is it, super pumps and lean gains, period end of story. It works. I'm taking more than the "recommended dosage", have worked my way up to 50mg today, started at 20mg daily, will probably stay at 50 to see how it works for a couple weeks and then, what the hell, kick it up a notch!
No you won't get Test, DBol or Anadrol Mass (water retention) but you will gain and you WILL lean out in an Anavar type of fashion. Is it Anavar? No. Does it work? HELL YES!
05-22-2004, 08:35 AM
Back to your original question.........Stacks well with M5AA if you are strictly looking for Lean gains.Originally Posted by oswizzle
05-22-2004, 08:47 AM
Keep me posted on how that 50mg's works out for you. I know "a guy" who also likes to experiment with really high doses.Originally Posted by gobig1
05-22-2004, 10:44 AM
05-22-2004, 11:16 AM
05-22-2004, 01:33 PM
50mg...Holy Cow...what kind of gains are you receiving from this as far as strength and lean gains/fat loss and what sides are you experiencing...also do you plan on getting blood work done to see how toxic that dosage is on the liver.
05-22-2004, 03:32 PM
Bumped mine up to 10 mgs a few days ago and Wow, what a difference. After cutting way too hard for the last few months my muscles soaked up the M4ohn with joy. No sides so far except maybe just a little sleep disruption and strangely my acne has seemed to actually subside on since the cycle started 11 days ago.
Awesome stuff. Way to go Sledgemeister!
05-22-2004, 03:58 PM
05-23-2004, 02:35 AM
I'd be happy to . ****, I'll even dose 100mg/day if someone wants to donate to "the cause".Originally Posted by Manu20
05-23-2004, 03:09 PM
Damn! 100mg a day! You gotta hook him up Sledge. We gotta see what this stuff does at critical mass dosages!Originally Posted by supersoldier
05-23-2004, 03:21 PM
hey SS,Originally Posted by supersoldier
what a coincidence, i know a guy who likes really high doses too and stacks it with high doses of thermalgenics. he thinks he's the human torch from the fantastic four.
05-23-2004, 04:39 PM
Bingo, another believer I agree 100% I have been at 20mg and the effect are just great.day 9 of M4OHN........if there ever was a PH that gave steroid like results, this is it, super pumps and lean gains, period end of story. It works. I'm taking more than the "recommended dosage", have worked my way up to 50mg today, started at 20mg daily, will probably stay at 50 to see how it works for a couple weeks and then, what the hell, kick it up a notch!
05-23-2004, 10:11 PM
05-23-2004, 10:26 PM
any updates on when we can get some bulk powder? I didnt get a chance to buy it since it sold out the first day..I know the ban is right around the way...Damn government!
05-23-2004, 10:28 PM
I'll sell you a gram of mine (currently doing my best Dr evil impersonation)..... For
ONE MILLLLLION DOLLARS.
Kidding I do not have any or use any PH or soon to be illegal substances, in fact I just hang out here because I have no life.
05-23-2004, 10:49 PM
i'm about to start my m4ohn with the tgel with 1test 4ad and 4oht..seems like ima start at 10mgs and go up to 20 if everything goes well...start in one more week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05-23-2004, 11:06 PM
I have never posted before but I read all the time I am currently 3weeks in on 500mg 1test trans 600mg4ad trans and 30mgm4ohn with 30mgm5aa on workout days no sides at all and I have to say I feel like a god most of the time.PS iam agood size fellow weighed in yesterday 286 6ft 3in 14to 15%bf also 41years young. Ihope this helps with the question it stacks great.
05-23-2004, 11:17 PM
honestly i think you could stack it with anything, patent studies show no progesterone activity, so until someone shows me a study showing it does, that is what I am going with. Obvioulsy there is no reason to not have nolva on hand just in case, always be prepared.
05-24-2004, 01:17 PM
05-24-2004, 06:43 PM
Taking IGF at 40mcg ED along with this, which causes hairgrowth. Have not noticed any hair loss with this combination, even though I am genetically predispositioned for MPB, the IGF cycle alone I ran helped fill in my receding hair line quite nicely, I would say it is the only anecdotally proven (real life) hair-regrowth agent. It grew my hair back in the receding places where there had been no hair for 20 years!Originally Posted by psywzrd
05-24-2004, 06:49 PM
You are one big mofo.Originally Posted by kevinW
I am three weeks in as well, and liking it stacked with 5aa cyp.
05-24-2004, 08:53 PM
Hold on a minute. Are you saying that you're taking something that is actually growing hair on your head where you were receding? Do you have any idea how big this news would be if it's true? I don't suppose you have any before and after pictures of your hairline? Please, tell us more about this. If this stuff actually grows hair (just on the head though - I'm not interested in looking like Chewbacca), my receding-hairline a** needs to be taking it.Originally Posted by gobig1
05-25-2004, 09:17 AM
There are a few reports of this from IGF-1 LR3, check out the IGF forum.Originally Posted by psywzrd
05-27-2004, 11:19 AM
Are you guys using things like 6oxo with these 20-50mg m4ohn cycles? Are you tapering off and how long are your cycles? thx
Last edited by rrgg; 05-27-2004 at 12:14 PM.
05-27-2004, 11:45 AM
Why would you use 6-oxo on cycle?Originally Posted by rrgg
Tapering has absolutely no benefit.
4-6 weeks is the current range of everybody I've seen. I'm 2 weeks into a 6-weeker.
05-27-2004, 12:15 PM
05-27-2004, 05:26 PM
Nolva is much better. M4OHN is proving to be rather mild on the HPTA, so you could probably get by. But the other options are recommended.
05-30-2004, 10:54 PM
Yes, hair is growing back where there has been none for years. Many others are reporting the same stuff. Big news, hell yes, but I don't think any legitamite research from GroPep (LR3IGF1 Patent owners) will be in the works anytime soon. At about the 2wk point is when I started noticing it, also the texture of the hair takes on a very healthy feel. I haven't noticed any Chewbacca growth, but I am of northern European ancestry anyways, so although I am not completely covered like a furry animal, I have a hairy chest, arms, legs and some on the back and haven't noticed any additional growth in those areas.Originally Posted by psywzrd
05-30-2004, 11:27 PM
"My Tumors are also growing at a rapid pace! Thanks IGF-1 "Originally Posted by gobig1
That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche
05-31-2004, 01:31 PM
Someone said they're putting M4OHN in the t-gel, does this work? I heard M4OHN couldn't be put in t-gel and made into a transdermal for some reason?
05-31-2004, 04:59 PM
you get no advantages putting it into a gel. m4ohn is not metabolized through the liver on the first pass. when you put it in the t-gel, you immediately lose ~60% that does not penetrate.Originally Posted by IanHummel
use 1-test, 4ad and oht if you are going to use t-gel.
05-31-2004, 05:26 PM
05-31-2004, 05:49 PM
hey sledge,Originally Posted by Designer Supps
am i supposed to be really sore day or 2 after workout?
i'm currently taking 9mg/day. was taking 4/day but bumped it up to 9 about 4 days ago. i'm currently 9 days into a 28-30 day cycle.
i'm stacking m4ohn with trimax and cardio on off days.
2 day split, 2 days off, repeat. cardio on off days. 20-25 minutes/6.5 on treadmill. feels easy to do except at the end.
i'm doing doggcrapp's routine. i usually go all out, androgens or no.
05-31-2004, 06:01 PM
I dont know his rountine, you should need less time to recover but if the workout is new for you, DOMS could take 3 days to recover from.
how long have you been doingthe routine, have you beengetting the same amount of sleep, with the higher dose of M4OHN you may not be sleeping enough, and still feel fine. (happened to me)
05-31-2004, 07:11 PM
How about a M1T, 4ad, M4ohn stack? What are the pro's and con's and what dosage would you recommend?
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