Peg 400 and M4OHN

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  1. Peg 400 and M4OHN


    Why can't you mix 1gm of m4ohn in 99ml of peg 400?


  2. Its not completely soluble.
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  3. I couldnt get it in either, so I added another 100ml of PEG-400. Most of it dissolved, but there is still some powder that settles. I am just using it anyway as a suspension, mixing each time before use.

  4. i did 5mg/ml in peg400 which is probably the highest you can go.

  5. 5 mg/mls worked for me as well.

    fwiw, suspension are ok, just gotta do some good shaking, for even dispersion.

    assuming there are no big clumps, etc.
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  6. Have any of you tried baking it? 225 in the oven for 20 to 30 min might do the trick. once it is disolved, it should remain stable. Just my 2 cents. I had to bake my M-Dien for 30 min to get it to dissolve, but it has stayed in solution ever since. (a couple months now.)

  7. Quote Originally Posted by lancelot
    i did 5mg/ml in peg400 which is probably the highest you can go.
    Same here. No problems with that.

  8. baking, no. i prefer water bath.

  9. Lean one when you baked yours what in the oven what did you put it in?

  10. I was asking what type of container he used to bake it in.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Manu20
    I was asking what type of container he used to bake it in.
    I just used an empty glass bottle. Like the ones that Sldge's betas come in. I saved up a bunch of those. Something else that works well for making batches greater that 100ml, is an empty vinegar or salad dressing bottle. Just make sure it's glass. Just dump the powder in, add your measured amount of PEG400,then "shake and bake". Check it every 10 min and shake it again until there are no more floaties and it is fully dissolved.

  12. I couldn't get 5mg/ml to stay in solution. I baked it twice for 25 minutes & tried the hot water bath, It still fell out after a few hours every time.

  13. not having it stay in solution, btw, is not the end of the world. the product is still usable as a suspension. think winnie.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by jjjd
    not having it stay in solution, btw, is not the end of the world. the product is still usable as a suspension. think winnie.
    My thoughts exactly. I've been taking it that way for a week.

  15. very true, nothing wrong at all with a suspension if you shake the hell out of it before use. I didn't realize how much of a bitch it seems to get these compunds to dissolve, haven't been on any besides M1T. Wonder why??

  16. for all the alchy's out there, the 375m and 750ml liquor bottles are good for these as well...

  17. Thanks Lean One

  18. for the higher concetrations I would mess around with olive oil or cottonseed oil and ba. it takes longer but i got 5.4mg/ml to stay stable for 2 weeks now at a room temp of about 68 degrees.

  19. When M4OHN comes out of solution in EVO only, is it supposed to appear like small shimery flakes floating around?

    I'll probably add some BA and BB to preserve the remainder of the stash but I'm just curious what the suspension should look like.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    When M4OHN comes out of solution in EVO only, is it supposed to appear like small shimery flakes floating around?

    I'll probably add some BA and BB to preserve the remainder of the stash but I'm just curious what the suspension should look like.
    Yeah, that's what mine looks like. Be aware of the millions of air bubbles that appear after the vigorous shaking, the particles get lost among all the bubbles.

  21. Could you make a suspension using just olive oil and BB or do you need the BA for sure?

  22. err, bump? Serious question, does the BA add anything if you're only dosing it orally?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jjjd
    not having it stay in solution, btw, is not the end of the world. the product is still usable as a suspension. think winnie.
    Ok can someone fill me in here ? So can u just take the powder like cyclo-1-test or something ?

    Can u just take the powder orally ? Because I don't want to buy the PEG if I don't have to. Thanks.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    Ok can someone fill me in here ? So can u just take the powder like cyclo-1-test or something ?

    Can u just take the powder orally ? Because I don't want to buy the PEG if I don't have to. Thanks.
    Are you serious?!
    Just think about how your are suppose to measure out m4ohn.

    And no one here eats their powders, it against the law.
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