"But i want to get big AND ripped!" How to run a RECOMP cycle

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  1. right on.... im sure there are guys that will say 2 months of epi is too long to be on a methyl... but i took the tren ph for 4 months so i cant say anything Once ur done with the anabolics get some clen maybe and a nice fat burner like alpha t2 (im running it right now and loving it). if ur recomping, imo, clen is golden


  2. Quote Originally Posted by GnastyMcNasty View Post
    right on.... im sure there are guys that will say 2 months of epi is too long to be on a methyl... but i took the tren ph for 4 months so i cant say anything Once ur done with the anabolics get some clen maybe and a nice fat burner like alpha t2 (im running it right now and loving it). if ur recomping, imo, clen is golden
    you took PH tren for 16 weeks? You should be 300 pounds now
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  3. I was cutting/recomping for the entire time...not trying to put on weight. I've gone from 235 to 215 and all my lifts have gone up.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by GnastyMcNasty View Post
    right on.... im sure there are guys that will say 2 months of epi is too long to be on a methyl... but i took the tren ph for 4 months so i cant say anything Once ur done with the anabolics get some clen maybe and a nice fat burner like alpha t2 (im running it right now and loving it). if ur recomping, imo, clen is golden
    i took tren ace for 20 weeks so i cant sh!t either... howd it make you feel?

  5. Oh I loved the sh*t.... I tolerate it very well.I felt great the entire time. The aggression was my fav aspect of it. I can barely wait til I do my first pin of tren ace to see how it compares
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by GnastyMcNasty View Post
    Oh I loved the sh*t.... I tolerate it very well.I felt great the entire time. The aggression was my fav aspect of it. I can barely wait til I do my first pin of tren ace to see how it compares
    you are gonna love it... the only part than ever got to me was occasional night sweats and unexplained anxiety. it wasnt often but it happened. one night i woke up in the middle of the night crying, i woke up my girl all frantic and she's all what is it, what is it?? i had no idea what was actually wrong which made it worse, cause i was freakin out about the fact that i was freakin out about nothing haha... but all that aside its the greatest thing i have ever put in my body... including pu$$y

  7. Quote Originally Posted by HumpTheCook View Post
    but all that aside its the greatest thing i have ever put in my body... including pu$$y
    uve put pu$$y in ur body?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    uve put pu$$y in ur body?
    well i thought about that before i wrote it... but i figured it goes in my mouth... and i "eat" it... for the sake of making the point i thought it could fly... apparently i was wrong haha

  9. any of you guys ever get the tren "cough"? A few guys who have run the tren I am getting have said it gave it to them... I'm a little nervous about that..sounds pretty gnarly

  10. So none opposed to a 8 weeker of epi/11 oxo....well then im all over it...Im going to have to take a good four months off to let my body stablize and androgen receptors refresh themselves.....but means it will be time for my winter p-mag bulk!
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

  11. Quote Originally Posted by GnastyMcNasty View Post
    any of you guys ever get the tren "cough"? A few guys who have run the tren I am getting have said it gave it to them... I'm a little nervous about that..sounds pretty gnarly
    never had any problems like that. my only sides:
    -rubber d!ck... sometimes even with cialis
    -occasional cold sweats / anxiety

  12. Quote Originally Posted by GnastyMcNasty View Post
    any of you guys ever get the tren "cough"? A few guys who have run the tren I am getting have said it gave it to them... I'm a little nervous about that..sounds pretty gnarly
    from my experience, u can get the "cough" from any injectable. i believe it happens when u pass through a vein and the oil/ba/bb gets into ur bloodstream. but ive noticed its more severe with tren....almost like u cant stop coughing and want to vomit and fall the floor...not so fun

  13. I'm on my first cutting cycle. As never having to loose weight before I screwed up in the beginning, I lost half inch in my arm, and about that in my chest, however I dropped almost 2.5" in my waist so far. I'm using h-drol, EC stack and eating way less, it's working for me!

    Lost about 15-17 pounds so far, and I can tell most is fat, even with the muscle loss i'm told I still look "big"

    I think some was also water weight from the last cycle of SD, I looked like a balloon!

    Good write-up man.

    EDIT :

    Realized this was just "recomp" not cutting. My bad.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    So true man so true. I tried to make it clear that a recomp is the HARDEST thing you can do... You need excess cals to build muscle, but calorie deficiency to lose fat, here you are trying to accomplish both of those, so the diet has no room for error.



    I don't get into specifics because I think everybody has their own thing they do for cardio. By now, people should know what type of cardio works for them.

    For me, when i'm not lifting i do cardio/abs days. I spend about 15-20 minutes doing ab excercises (some weighted ab exercises, crunches, obliques, leg raises etc.). My cardio is always 30 minutes, I guess most time is spent in the 140-160 HR region but I always spend a good chunk of time in the 160-170 region.

    BTW for recomping and pure fat burning, i have read that you should have a little less intensity i.e. 120-130 HR because greater intensity is more catabolic and less likely to burn fat... If you do this low HR, I would certainly do the cardio for a lot longer like 45 minutes at least.

    I just do what works for me, i like to go up and down with the intensity, I like to sweat a lot.


    Honestly I hate cardio though it's so boring. Get an MP3 player that can play videos, torrent a TV show you want to see, load it onto your video MP3 player, and only let yourself watch those episodes when you do cardio. I did that last summer, that helped me do 2x sessions a day

    i have read that also, and have friends that swear by that.. but i do hiit for 20 minutes after each weight session seems to really be doing the trick for me, heart rate usually stays around 165-175 except during cool down and warm up, also great if your just short on time..

    and hey bro do you mind checking my diet?

    Check/Rate my Diet

    seems to be doing its job for now, but never hurts to have second opinions..

    great post by the way.. subbed

  15. bump. This deserves more attention IMO. haha

  16. good post

  17. Unreal,
    I was planning on doing a Epi/Tren cycle for a recomp. Would this be a good choice? I was thinking;

    Epi-30/30/30/30/30/30

    Tren-0/0/90/90/90/90

  18. i think that is fine. but a recomp goes way, way beyond the cycle, what are you going to do for lifting and cardio? That's far more important.
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  19. My lifting now is the Westside routine. Don't know if that would be the best program for a recomp. Cardio will probably be running 2-2.5 miles 5-6 days a week. Im just worried that the Tren will interfere with my cardio.

  20. so im using 50mg of superdrol bridged into 80mg of epistane, im not eating enough calories, but im loosing weight. what the hell?

    I thought steroids make you gain muscle?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    My lifting now is the Westside routine. Don't know if that would be the best program for a recomp. Cardio will probably be running 2-2.5 miles 5-6 days a week. Im just worried that the Tren will interfere with my cardio.
    I think Westside will work well for a recomp, I like to train for strength when calories aren't very high, it just seems easier to recover from. The cardio sounds good but maybe on the short side because that's like what 20 minutes maybe you could start pushing further with your runs as you get in better shape...
    Which brings me to the last point, the tren shouldn't impair your cardio. I mean it can for some people but usually they're talking about REAL tren although the PH tren is pretty similar. For me anyway, steroids never impair my cardio... Last summer on my recomp I started off with Tren and i was doing so much cardio i was consistently getting better at it. Which is good because when i got better at it, I just made my sessions longer and accomplished even more fat burning .

    So i think on the cardio you should be able to improve on the tren, if you have to just take it slow and push through it, probably better to do a lower intensity type cardio anyway. Then start pushing the cardio longer as you become more capable.

    The most likely problem you could encounter running around on Tren is calf pumps/cramps. Sooo take some taurine, stay hydrated, stretch them out first, all that jazz.
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  22. So I guess a "REcomp" is impossible unless u do a cycle...or is it??? I carb cycle and all that...aside from the milk a day my diet is clean...I lift 4x a week and just began hiit after calves nabs on off day...will I be able to maintain and burn fat atleast...maybe if gain a lil???

  23. Quote Originally Posted by manicstudio View Post
    So I guess a "REcomp" is impossible unless u do a cycle...or is it??? I carb cycle and all that...aside from the milk a day my diet is clean...I lift 4x a week and just began hiit after calves nabs on off day...will I be able to maintain and burn fat atleast...maybe if gain a lil???
    My bad didn't know this was in anabolic section....still welcome answers though

  24. it is virtually impossible to add muscle while you lose fat without the presence of anabolics in your body. even with them its next to impossible.

    one requires a calorie defecit while the other requires a calorie surplus

  25. Quote Originally Posted by manicstudio View Post
    So I guess a "REcomp" is impossible unless u do a cycle...or is it??? I carb cycle and all that...aside from the milk a day my diet is clean...I lift 4x a week and just began hiit after calves nabs on off day...will I be able to maintain and burn fat atleast...maybe if gain a lil???
    not at all, just have to perfect your diet.. Maybe look into a few natty supps that could help you out.. i would def recommend a nutrient partitioner (recompadrol, anabolic pump, glycobol,etc)

  26. Quote Originally Posted by HumpTheCook View Post
    it is virtually impossible to add muscle while you lose fat without the presence of anabolics in your body. even with them its next to impossible.

    one requires a calorie defecit while the other requires a calorie surplus
    I have been running a pretty successful recomp with nothing but the natabolic stack, recompadrol, and my staple supps.. No where near as successful as if i were using anabolics, but I know its possible for me anyways..

  27. Quote Originally Posted by zodiiac523 View Post
    not at all, just have to perfect your diet.. Maybe look into a few natty supps that could help you out.. i would def recommend a nutrient partitioner (recompadrol, anabolic pump, glycobol,etc)
    I think it'd also require you to eat slightly closer to 8 meals a day. I'm not saying this has to be done on a ton of cals either. Just spread your cals throughout the 8 meals and just make sure you'll slightly over maintenance. I think that'll help.

  28. never thought of that, i currently eat 7 meals on workout days..

  29. Recomping without a cycle is just really really slow. But it depends on where you're at. If you're new to lifting and you're also a fatass, it's pretty easy to add muscle and lose fat. If you're an experienced lifter with decent bodyfat, it's so goddamn tough.
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    Recomping without a cycle is just really really slow. But it depends on where you're at. If you're new to lifting and you're also a fatass, it's pretty easy to add muscle and lose fat. If you're an experienced lifter with decent bodyfat, it's so goddamn tough.
    yes, but its still recomping, very slowly gaining muscle and losing fat... I guess ill be able to fully enjoy the recomp in a couple years when i finally decide to run a cycle..
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