- 06-03-2010, 12:40 PM
Hi I've been doing 1 CC of Deca and 1 CC of Test Propiante every 10 days or so. All of a sudden i've become very bloted and constepated. The truth is I haven't even had the desire to "GO". The odd thing is that this happened about 1.5 months after starting. I try to keep my dosage low (on the test) because I shed a little. I'm assuming that thsi is happening because my system has shut down. Any advice - please on a post cycle to make my systen kick in and on supplements that assist on bulking. I'm sure no supplements will make up for the juice but something good. Sorry if I sound dumb here but I need some help.
- 06-03-2010, 12:45 PM
uve been on this board for 4 years and u still have no clue what ur doing?
- 06-03-2010, 12:49 PM
I joined 4 years ago. I haven't been on this board and thansk for your help.
06-03-2010, 12:50 PM
06-03-2010, 01:05 PM
the cycle is retarded and makes no sense, u dont have a PCT in hand or even know what to use, and u want supplements that help u "bulk" in PCT.
if u didnt have a join date of dec 2006 then i would call u a troll in a heartbeat.
maybe someone else will come along and help u, but im not spoonfeeding u things u should have researched and learned BEFORE running a cycle.
06-03-2010, 01:46 PM
OK. so please - help me out here what do I do. give me a suggestion. I still have the Deca And Test Propionate and I dont want to throw it away. For some reason I like shut down and I am constipated - or actually do not have the desire to go. how should I do the Deca and Test (w/ something to prevent hair loss)?, what should I use for a PCT and once I am done with both... what supplements out there are good. Sorry, there's so much info on this site it is hard to find what I need. I decided to do the cycle as I did cause I didn't want to do too much.
06-03-2010, 02:07 PM
you are going to feel like **** because you are taking an assload of deca. your system is going to be shutdown hard and your **** is going to completely flacid. you should not be taking so much deca. test : deca , 2:1.
the constipation likely has alot to do with diet as well. i have gotten like that on cycle before too. make sure your fibre is up.
look into bromo and caber for pct.
do a search on test / deca logs on here.
06-03-2010, 02:19 PM
Again sorry if I sound ignorant here ... you are right I am doing 1:1 on the Deca to Test ... When I say CC I mean the "1" on the needle (I hope I am correct) there. Correct me if I am wrong and you are right my libido has been low. As far as frequency - should I be doing this once a week?
As far as the bromo and caber for pct - is that over the counter or not? I will look at the logs and thanks for the advice.
06-03-2010, 02:28 PM
prop needs to be takin everyday or eod.
deca well what the dose?
no they are not OTC. you willl need more than OTC for test / deca.
take some time and do some research. your body will thank you for it.
06-03-2010, 02:39 PM
no - I do not think you are being rude. thanks. The Deca that I have is a 10ml vile and 275mg/ml. The Test Propionate is a 10 mil vile and 100mg/ml. I guess there's my answer as you said .. way to much Deca to Test. I've learned something - thanks. The reason why I asked about OTC is because its easy around my way to get juice but for the PCT its tough. When you say "prop needs to be takin everyday or eod" ... you mean, (deca/test) am I correct?
06-03-2010, 02:54 PM
You are taking steroids and don't know how to dose them and don't have a PCT in place. Its pretty safe to say you should be wearing a helmet because that is straight up retarded. Over the counter PCT for test and deca?.....your better off taking rat poison lol. This is the type of garbage has ruined it for responsible users. Use the search function and spend an hour reading up on things. Once you have some knowledge of the substances and how they work and more importantly how to dose them, post up some questions you have. Best of luck to you.
06-03-2010, 02:55 PM
You are clearly just trolling bro. Clearly. Lol - i cant believe you created an account 4 years ago and waited this whole time post this joke message. O man - you have some serious commitment to trolling.
There is no way you are seriously taking the cycle you posted, right? There is NO WAY you are trying to use an OTC PTC or are having trouble finding one, right? There is NO WAY you really expect us to believe this? ..... (smile starts to fade) ..... right?
All jokes aside, I hope you are joking. If not, get on a SERM asap. Stop taking what you are taking ASAP and GET ON A SERM.
Back.... for real this time
06-03-2010, 03:27 PM
I am serious and I am happy ur getting a kick out of this. makes you feel real cool huh? wow - ur so cool - you know ur stuff. (pat pay on ur back - you know how to use the juice) ... What is a SERM? I am not a troll - I am serious.
06-03-2010, 03:29 PM
06-03-2010, 04:27 PM
Wow. Prop every 10 days? Way more deca than test?
Haha, bet you can't satisfy your girlfriend? Am I right?
06-03-2010, 04:56 PM
ahhh i love trainwrecks like this
06-03-2010, 05:28 PM
06-03-2010, 07:28 PM
I might do the exact same cycle. Looks Solid and well Planned out...
06-03-2010, 07:34 PM
06-03-2010, 08:38 PM
Wow, this is a disaster.
OP, if u are still there, do a Google search on clomid and nolvadex. They are SERMs.
06-03-2010, 08:43 PM
06-03-2010, 08:47 PM
thanks I feel like a real moron. i did was doing it this way because I didn't want to do too much. in the past I had done small cylse like this and had no issues. small gains were enough for me. and yeah, it is obvious that I dont know what I am doing but I asked for help, suggestions ... not to be ridiculed.
06-03-2010, 08:52 PM
How much a day? a CC? I probaly should just stay away from this stuff... I am concerned about my hair. That is why also asked about some effective OCT supplements... obviously not as effective as juice but decent for gaining size. As far as the PCTs ... they are just tough to get around my way. That is why I was wondering if the OCT ones were effective. One last question... sites like steriods "dot" com ... are they for real? They've also got these steriod alternatives ... do you know if they are good?
06-03-2010, 08:56 PM
google SERM as mentioned above.
06-03-2010, 08:59 PM
06-03-2010, 09:00 PM
06-03-2010, 09:14 PM
Not sure where u are, OP, but now that u know what a SERM is, u should do a Google search for research chemicals. Pct can be found if u know where to look.
FYI: test prop is a short acting compound. Next time use test e or my fav sustenon.
06-03-2010, 09:22 PM
i'm 41 - can't use sus - I used to but didn't like the heart palps in my 20s. Again... are any of the sites out there good and safe (legally) to buy from?
06-03-2010, 09:27 PM
Be careful, buddy. Asking for source will get u banned. These chems are not illegal in the US. Most places are legit.
06-03-2010, 09:31 PM
drop the deca.
start running the test prop @ 100mg every other day.
in the mean time, google "research chemicals", as others have said, most of these places are legit. get nolvadex or clomid.
...but u need to know that asking for sources will get u banned from this site
06-03-2010, 09:45 PM
OP... please dont use anymore.
By injecting test prop every 10 days you are spiking your test right after injection, shutting down your HPTA (hyper pituitary testicular axis) and allowing the test to aromatize to estrogen. Now, this wouldn't be a problem but test prop only has a half life of ~40 hours. So in less than 2 days the test has lost half its activity, aromotization to estrogen has occurred and you have shut down your natural test.
By injecting test prop every 10 days you have placed your body in the worst possible anabolic state. You have put yourself in a serious position to get gyno by essentially going on and off steroids every 10 days for months!
Secondly, you started a steroid cycle without any knowledge about how steroids shut down your own testosterone production, or if you knew about this then you made no plans to address this shutdown after your cycle is over.
You do not know that a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) is required to control estrogen levels.
You have likely not considered cortisol spikes during pct or the addition of a natural test booster to get yourself going again.
You have not considered bounceback estrogen and the need for an aromatase inhibitor (AI).
You are likely not on support supps for liver, heart, or a DHT control for your hairline.
Despite the immense danger you have risked and how forcefully I have tried to make you realize the err in your ways, you persist in your quest for more steroids!!! Even probing the board for a source!
I refuse to believe that anyone could have so little care for their own health that they would be so careless. I am in my 20s and you are in your 40s and you display a level of immaturity that supercedes anything I've done on my worst day! Good luck - sincerely - I hope you can magically avoid the certain inevitable grave consequences that are sure to be on your doorstep.
Back.... for real this time
06-03-2010, 10:28 PM
And "beastdrol" is superdrol the methylated version of masteron, which is now a class III controlled substance. So therefore it is illegal.
06-04-2010, 08:49 AM
ok buddy, first of all you did not start off by using constructive critisism ... you started with jokes and sarcasm. thanks for the information and sure I knew of the risks but as I stated... its hard for me to get PCTs around my way. The truth is that I shouldnt be doing anything like this. I am concerned with my hair and no matter what percaustions I take it is at risk. So I'll stick to supplements. BTW - I could tell that you took a long time to write your post. Your writting does not impress me. No need to respond. I wont read replies anymore.
06-04-2010, 09:27 AM
06-04-2010, 09:40 AM
no this guy is a jerk. i could understand some sarcasm... some jesting but there is no reason to take it as far as he did. we are not all as knowledgable about this stuff. Some good advice would have sufficed. I could take some of the jokes but there is no point to mock.
06-04-2010, 12:42 PM
And you are telling me you KNEW the risk, KNEW you were going to be shutdown and needed a pct but since getting a pct is hard around your way you decided, hey fcuk it i'll just do the cycle the fcuk the pct? Thats your agruement? That you knew what you were doing and you decided to do it stupidly because it was easier? Just trying to clarify.
Good Luck with your life.:*******:
Btw - i still think youre a troll.
Back.... for real this time
06-08-2010, 11:20 AM
To CrazyChemist. In my 20s people hardly used PCTs ... I never did and my body would kick back in. I am older now and so its different. You were right but I think you could have used a different tone. However, you did at least reply and I appreciate that. On Sunday night I went to the emergency room they did some xrays and found that my small intestines were inflamed. I have to say that the pain I had to endure these past days I do not wish on anyone - I thought I was going to die. Finally at 1 AM last my bowls moved and about 3 times after that. Thanks and my apologies for being rude.