Var/T3 cycle advice.

[Luck 6]

5'9"
213lbs.
14% BF (just a guess)
2x Test-E cycles under my belt
Training for about 8 years, 6 years seriously

Let me start by saying I'm just getting off a Test-E cycle so I will be waiting a couple months to get this going. I've done as much research as I could in regards to T3's, but now I feel I need to ask a couple questions. My cycle below is fully open to suggestions, money is however a BIT of a factor so I'm trying to stick to things that will give me 'bang for my buck'

T3 doses:
Days 1-3.................. 25mcg/day
Days 4-6...................50mcg/day
Days 7-9...................75mcg/day
Days 10-12................100mcg/day
Days 13-15................75mcg/day
Days 16-18................50mcg/day
Days 19-21................25mcg/day

Anavar 50mg/day weeks 1-3
ECA ED weeks 3-5
Clomid at 50mg/day weeks 4-5

Now, I'm extremely worried about muscle loss, do you think 50mg of Anavar will be enough to counter this? I don't want to use test again, and I've been looking for an excuse to try Anavar.

In regards to diet, it sounds like you should consume a bit more than your conventional cutting diet. Would something like this be terrible?

Meal 1:
Protein shake blended with fruit in water

Meal 2:
Turkey Sandwich, cup of yogurt, small amount of light cheese

Meal 3:
Cashew Nut Chicken on Rice (varies - sometimes Sushi, Chicken Teriyaki etc.)

Meal 4:
Protein Bar

TRAIN

Meal 5:
Protein shake blended with fruit in water
30 minutes after steak and patatoes or chicken or salmon or something like that

Meal 6:
Protein Shake blended with fruit in milk

Again, I don't want to become catabolic. It's very difficult for me to eat too much better than that what with my job, do you think that will be sufficient?

 

[appleyard]

I would carb up before the workout.

 

[Kookahdoo]

It will work, but IMO the best way to run it is with Test. NO cycle should be without it.

I doubt you'll be catabolic with the var, but you're going to cut like a b***ch.

 

[Luck 6]

It will work, but IMO the best way to run it is with Test. NO cycle should be without it.

I doubt you'll be catabolic with the var, but you're going to cut like a b***ch.

I myself typically follow this same rule. I'm only using Var for 3 weeks tho if you notice. The only test I could run that way is prop and, I dunno, I don't really wanna run a 3 week test prop cycle.. I got a bit of hair loss off test last time too so I'm thinking about laying off for good. Var is friendly in that way I hear.

Like I said, I'm trying to maintain muscle and get cut.

 

[Kookahdoo]

I myself typically follow this same rule. I'm only using Var for 3 weeks tho if you notice. The only test I could run that way is prop and, I dunno, I don't really wanna run a 3 week test prop cycle.. I got a bit of hair loss off test last time too so I'm thinking about laying off for good. Var is friendly in that way I hear.

Like I said, I'm trying to maintain muscle and get cut.

Sorry, I missed the 3 weeks of Anavar. I don't think you'll be anti-catabolic enough to prevent muscle loss.

 

[Luck 6]

Sorry, I missed the 3 weeks of Anavar. I don't think you'll be anti-catabolic enough to prevent muscle loss.

What's your reasoning? Don't people often do 15mg SD cycles along with T3 for this same reason? I fail to see why Anavar won't produce a similar effect.

 

[Tyler3295]

Agreed. The var probably won't be enough to offset the T3 muscle loss, especially at the higher dosages (.75-100mcg). Just run some test.

Also, perhaps substitute clen for the ECA?

 

[Luck 6]

Agreed. The var probably won't be enough to offset the T3 muscle loss, especially at the higher dosages (.75-100mcg). Just run some test.

Also, perhaps substitute clen for the ECA?

Ok, so, how would I run the test if I HAD to go that route? I was going to just do a quick 3 week cut and I have no interest in doing an anabolic for much longer than that.

Is using Test Prop EOD for only 3 weeks while I'm on T3 advisable?

What if I could get some 1-AD or something that that? I wouldnt have thought it to be so, but could that be better than Anavar since it's typically used in short cycles?

 

[nosnmiveins]

why are u only planning a 3 week cycle? cuts need to be long and well thought out to preserve muscle while losing fat.

dont expect much of anything in just 3 weeks.

an ideal cycle for u would be:

Test Prop 100mg eod 1-8
Anavar 50mg ed 1-8
T3 1-8 (whatever dosing u prefer)

 

[Luck 6]

why are u only planning a 3 week cycle? cuts need to be long and well thought out to preserve muscle while losing fat.

dont expect much of anything in just 3 weeks.

an ideal cycle for u would be:

Test Prop 100mg eod 1-8
Anavar 50mg ed 1-8
T3 1-8 (whatever dosing u prefer)

I think my point is kind of getting mixed here, maybe I didn't clarify well enough. I don't WANT to be on any anabolic really, I don't like the feeling of it personally. I do want to cut using T3s and use whatever minimal anabolic I can to counter the catabolic effects. If I'm only on a 3 week T3 cycle, which my research atleast seems to suggest is more common than an 8 weeker, then do I really need to stay anabolic for much longer than that?

It's my understanding that T3 works fast by nature, and 3 weeks is enough to notice significant effects. Along with an anabolic substance I should, for the most part, lose only fat.

Obviously using an anabolic like Test prop or Anavar for 3 weeks alone is unconventional, but I'm confused as to why it won't work knowing that the only reason the anabolic is there is to keep me from becoming catabolic.

 

[nosnmiveins]

I would use a faster acting oral than anavar. Personally I think 20mg Ed of dbol will better serve ur purpose....plus it's a hell of a lot cheaper

 

[Luck 6]

I would use a faster acting oral than anavar. Personally I think 20mg Ed of dbol will better serve ur purpose....plus it's a hell of a lot cheaper

Hairloss man Can't do d-bol. I didnt really want to jump right back on Test Prop but if that's the only way than maybe I will, I guess.