Poll: Which would be the best stack for a cut

ECA, Clen/T3, h drol/furazadrol, or both (hdrol/furaza/t3/clen) for a cut?

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    ECA, Clen/T3, h drol/furazadrol, or both (hdrol/furaza/t3/clen) for a cut?


    okay i want to talk supps. i know diet and cardio and weight trainning is crucial but lets talk supps more specifically anabolic and stimulants. im looking for the perfect cut ranging from 6-8 weeks. so what is the best route for a cut with results in hand. i have tried clen and it messed up my asthma (ironic), but im recovering, and im willing to give it another try. also does albuterol compare to clen, putting "sides" aside, does albuterol burn fat as good as clen? would the hdrol/fura be a good cutting stack (not recomp)? can i use clen/t3/hdrol/furaza? or too much?
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    if clen messed you up why would you use it again? try ECA and yes, something mild like hdrol would be a good 6-8 week anabolic to run on a cut
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoe View Post
    if clen messed you up why would you use it again? try ECA and yes, something mild like hdrol would be a good 6-8 week anabolic to run on a cut
    clen messed me up but not that bad i mean i am gaining my cardiac endurance and breathing back.
    so you would suggest ECA over clen/t3?
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    Im in the same boat as you bro. NO RESPONSES to my thread either. what am i doing wrong! lol.
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    aside from that bro what would yor stack look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    clen messed me up but not that bad i mean i am gaining my cardiac endurance and breathing back.
    so you would suggest ECA over clen/t3?
    sorry it took so long for a response... i have no first hand knowledge of clen or t3 but im pretty confident in saying albuteral is not nearly as potent as clen.

    if you can handle the clen (maybe it had an adverse effect with your asthma meds?) then i dont see anything wrong with your stack

    personally, i think starting a cut with little or no supps, then gradually adding in supps to augment the fatloss is the best approach, JMO - like start with the furaza first 4 weeks, throw in clen about week 4, throw in t3 about week 6 and run the clen and t3 throughout the rest of the cut, then finish up with hdrol the last 4 or 5 weeks.. maybe do a 10 or 12 week cut instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoe View Post
    sorry it took so long for a response... i have no first hand knowledge of clen or t3 but im pretty confident in saying albuteral is not nearly as potent as clen.

    if you can handle the clen (maybe it had an adverse effect with your asthma meds?) then i dont see anything wrong with your stack

    personally, i think starting a cut with little or no supps, then gradually adding in supps to augment the fatloss is the best approach, JMO - like start with the furaza first 4 weeks, throw in clen about week 4, throw in t3 about week 6 and run the clen and t3 throughout the rest of the cut, then finish up with hdrol the last 4 or 5 weeks.. maybe do a 10 or 12 week cut instead
    wow that stack sounds insane
    so would furaza be for the whole 12 wks? sounds expensive
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    no just the first 4 or 5.. with about 4 weeks with no anabolics, then finish with hdrol last 4 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoe View Post
    no just the first 4 or 5.. with about 4 weeks with no anabolics, then finish with hdrol last 4 weeks
    no PCT?
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    i'd go with crystal meth for your cut. nothing drops the weight like tha g train.

    use whey protein to prevent loosing muscle mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    i'd go with crystal meth for your cut. nothing drops the weight like tha g train.

    use whey protein to prevent loosing muscle mass.
    yeah ill stack it with coke and ephedra and clen
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    Run the hdrol and furaza for six weeks along with a good diet and training. You have to dose the furaza fairly high however.

    In PCT run the clen and T3 or just the clen, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and repeat. I would use a SERM, i.e., Nolva for PCT...20/20/10/10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seunim View Post
    Run the hdrol and furaza for six weeks along with a good diet and training. You have to dose the furaza fairly high however.

    In PCT run the clen and T3 or just the clen, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and repeat. I would use a SERM, i.e., Nolva for PCT...20/20/10/10.
    man im kinda broke. i have a bottle of furaza and h drol and i have ephedra (primatene) and some aspirin. i have like $150 spare cash (not much ). so i think i might have enought for a furaza and hdrol cycle but bot the t3/clen. is clen/t3 really that awesome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    man im kinda broke. i have a bottle of furaza and h drol and i have ephedra (primatene) and some aspirin. i have like $150 spare cash (not much ). so i think i might have enought for a furaza and hdrol cycle but bot the t3/clen. is clen/t3 really that awesome?
    If you're a bit strapped for cash, just get 1 or 2 more bottles of furaza and save the clen for later. The hdrol and furaza run for six weeks is gone to cut and harden you up nicely if you have your diet on point. Make sure you're running cycle supports and a proper PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seunim View Post
    If you're a bit strapped for cash, just get 1 or 2 more bottles of furaza and save the clen for later. The hdrol and furaza run for six weeks is gone to cut and harden you up nicely if you have your diet on point. Make sure you're running cycle supports and a proper PCT.
    so you think i should go with furza and hdrol after my 2 months on ephedra? BTW im not much of an expert on ephedra is 2 months straight okay?
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    what about a 4 bottle furaza A 2 bottles of h drol(for 6 weeks, and some trisorbagen for absorbtion) AFTER my ECA for 2 months maybe a month break in between.

    you think i should add some stano drol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    so you think i should go with furza and hdrol after my 2 months on ephedra? BTW im not much of an expert on ephedra is 2 months straight okay?
    I'd run the hdrol and furaza. I can't comment on the ephedra as I haven't used it. I generally run clen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    what about a 4 bottle furaza A 2 bottles of h drol(for 6 weeks, and some trisorbagen for absorbtion) AFTER my ECA for 2 months maybe a month break in between.

    you think i should add some stano drol?
    2 hdrol and 4 furaza is what you need for six weeks. I've never used trisorbagen so I don't know about that. I generally dose my PH's with olive oil or fish oil for absorbtion. After you finish you ECA, I don't see why you can't start to preload for 2 weeks and then begin your cycle, but a month in between wouldn't hurt either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seunim View Post
    2 hdrol and 4 furaza is what you need for six weeks. I've never used trisorbagen so I don't know about that. I generally dose my PH's with olive oil or fish oil for absorbtion. After you finish you ECA, I don't see why you can't start to preload for 2 weeks and then begin your cycle, but a month in between wouldn't hurt either.
    cool, thanks man...
    you know if hemadrol is any good i have hdrol from cel but trying to save some cash and hemadrol i can get hemadrol for $20. and is nolva necessari i heard hdrol is very mild, some say yes some say no on serm what do you say. nolva 3/2/2/1?
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    I'm not familiar with hemadrol but I do trust CEL products. Very legit company. Personally, I would never run any PH without having a SERM on-hand, just in case. I'd run the nolva 20/20/10/10. Go to tunedsports and read what they have to say about hdrol and furaza. Great info.
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    Clen and ECA act on the same receptors so you'll notice the effects from both disappear much quicker. I think Clen/T3 EOD with hdrol/furaz for 6 weeks would be a good cycle IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Clen and ECA act on the same receptors so you'll notice the effects from both disappear much quicker. I think Clen/T3 EOD with hdrol/furaz for 6 weeks would be a good cycle IMO.
    that would be nice if i had the money unfortunately i dont. and t3 is kinda expensive, so i already have the ECA i have to choose between the h/furaza and the t3/clen ans since i already have 1 bottle of furaza and hdrol i think im gonna go with that.
    how does this look

    furaza 250/300/300/300/300/300
    h drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
    trisorbagen 2caps for 45 days
    +some support
    than nolva @ 3/2/2/1


    anybody have any input on hemadrol, trying to save some cashing by buying that instead of hdrol as hema is only $20 but i heard it was a bunk you think i should just go with hdrol @$27 (im really broke )
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    that would be nice if i had the money unfortunately i dont. and t3 is kinda expensive, so i already have the ECA i have to choose between the h/furaza and the t3/clen ans since i already have 1 bottle of furaza and hdrol i think im gonna go with that.
    how does this look

    furaza 250/300/300/300/300/300
    h drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
    trisorbagen 2caps for 45 days
    +some support
    than nolva @ 3/2/2/1


    anybody have any input on hemadrol, trying to save some cashing by buying that instead of hdrol as hema is only $20 but i heard it was a bunk you think i should just go with hdrol @$27 (im really broke )
    To bad your budget is limiting. I'd say run it like this...

    furaz 350/350/350/350/350/350/
    Hdrol 100/100/100/100/100/100/

    ECA EOD - 100mg E, 800mg C, A or Y up to you


    WTF is trisorbagen???
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    To bad your budget is limiting. I'd say run it like this...

    furaz 350/350/350/350/350/350/
    Hdrol 100/100/100/100/100/100/

    ECA EOD - 100mg E, 800mg C, A or Y up to you


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    To bad your budget is limiting. I'd say run it like this...

    furaz 350/350/350/350/350/350/
    Hdrol 100/100/100/100/100/100/

    ECA EOD - 100mg E, 800mg C, A or Y up to you


    WTF is trisorbagen???
    what if i buy 4 more bottles allowing me to dose furaza @ 350 for 6 weeks and then do hdrol @ how i had it? i little better like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    that would be nice if i had the money unfortunately i dont. and t3 is kinda expensive, so i already have the ECA i have to choose between the h/furaza and the t3/clen ans since i already have 1 bottle of furaza and hdrol i think im gonna go with that.
    how does this look

    furaza 250/300/300/300/300/300
    h drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
    trisorbagen 2caps for 45 days
    +some support
    than nolva @ 3/2/2/1

    I think this is the way to go. Hdrol at 100 ED for 6 weeks is kind of high IMO, and most consider the sweet spot for hdol to be 75mg. If you're stacking 2 PH's I'd keep it at where you have it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    what if i buy 4 more bottles allowing me to dose furaza @ 350 for 6 weeks and then do hdrol @ how i had it? i little better like that?
    yeah that would work.....and drop that trisorbagen crap sounds like a complete rip off to me.
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    Try to save up about $50 more. Then you can get 3 bottles of furaza, 1 of havoc, and 2 of ECA. Youd have enough to make this cycle-

    WK 1-8 ECA xtreme 3 tabs ED = 25mg Ephedra, 200mg caffine, 325mg asprin per tab.
    WK 1-6 Furaza 150/150/200/250/300/300 or a lil less.
    WK 1-4 Havoc 30/30/30/40

    But then ud kinda be **** out of luck on the pct. But save sum green throughout the cycle so that by the time your finished ull have enough for a pct.
    i know kinda weak but it fits ur budget and as long as u train hard and eat right you shuld be ok. But nobody suggest starting until your fully prepaired. Check out my similar thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Try to save up about $50 more. Then you can get 3 bottles of furaza, 1 of havoc, and 2 of ECA. Youd have enough to make this cycle-

    WK 1-8 ECA xtreme 3 tabs ED = 25mg Ephedra, 200mg caffine, 325mg asprin per tab.
    WK 1-6 Furaza 150/150/200/250/300/300 or a lil less.
    WK 1-4 Havoc 30/30/30/40

    But then ud kinda be **** out of luck on the pct. But save sum green throughout the cycle so that by the time your finished ull have enough for a pct.
    i know kinda weak but it fits ur budget and as long as u train hard and eat right you shuld be ok. But nobody suggest starting until your fully prepaired. Check out my similar thread.
    honestly i tried havoc and thought it was crap, others say its awesome but i dont like. yeah i already have the ECA for 2 months, just need 1 bottle os hdrol and 3-4 bottles of furaza and a serm. im about to purchase hdrol online right now but you think its worth it, cutting with hormonals some say its stupid because you can do it with out hormonals and just with eca. what do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    honestly i tried havoc and thought it was crap, others say its awesome but i dont like. yeah i already have the ECA for 2 months, just need 1 bottle os hdrol and 3-4 bottles of furaza and a serm. im about to purchase hdrol online right now but you think its worth it, cutting with hormonals some say its stupid because you can do it with out hormonals and just with eca. what do you think?
    honestly i have only usesd tren-13 & nolvadex xt before, however i do know about a good amount of prohormones but h-drol is not one of them. As far as cutting with PH, it depends what kind of goals u expect. For example if u wanted to drop 30lbs of fat and gain 20 in muscle then yea id say u definately will need a good ph stack to keep u strong, pumped and give that edge u need to gain muscle during that damage phase. But if u only wanna cut and are not gonna really focus much on weight lifting days, then id say its more of a waste of money then results. Also depends on what type of stimulants u add too such as t3, if u plan on running that higher then 50mcg ED for longer than 4weeks then id say definatly add the PHs.

    But then again in ur budget situation id say thats kind of a waste too becuase your spending all that money on phs that are just being used to gain muscle so that the t3 can have something to eat(if u were to use t3). Its like buying a pet to look cute but u gotta buy him food. I think most ppl usually waste that much money to keep there muscles cause they can, but mainly cause they have alot to lose if they dont protect them. My first use of t3 i didnt use any ph or aas, and honestly i didnt notice much, if any muscle loss at all. But now that i have about 10lbs of fat to loose, and could use about 10lbs of muscle, i'd say this is the perfect opportunity for a ph cutting stack..
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    yeah so im gonna strictly cut on ECA for 2 months and then im gonna recomp with hdrol/furaza, my goal on hdrol/furaza would be to gain a total of net, 6lbs, while dropping a good 2-4% BF think its possible? BTW im not gonna add t3 or clen, im just gonna use eca then hdrol/fura
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    yeah so im gonna strictly cut on ECA for 2 months and then im gonna recomp with hdrol/furaza, my goal on hdrol/furaza would be to gain a total of net, 6lbs, while dropping a good 2-4% BF think its possible? BTW im not gonna add t3 or clen, im just gonna use eca then hdrol/fura
    I think if your not gonna use t3 then just throw in the eca with the hdrol/furaz. Itll be pointless to do one then the next, ud be wasting time. I only suggested t3 alone if u didnt mind shedding some muscle and because the more muscle u gained off the ph, the more muscle the t3 would shed. But eca doesnt have that catabolic effect t3 has.

    And 6lbs of muscles is kinda under expected if u ask me. It sounds like ur expecting to gain very little, cmon now, are you also expecting to have minimal work outs, crappy diet, and a ****ty pct? Didnt think so. Set high but humanly possible goals, and you'll surprise yourself. I gained almost 10lbs of muscle off of tren-13 alone! But then it was during my clen cycle and clen has been said to work anabolic like in conjuntion with other anabolic like substances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    I think if your not gonna use t3 then just throw in the eca with the hdrol/furaz. Itll be pointless to do one then the next, ud be wasting time. I only suggested t3 alone if u didnt mind shedding some muscle and because the more muscle u gained off the ph, the more muscle the t3 would shed. But eca doesnt have that catabolic effect t3 has.

    And 6lbs of muscles is kinda under expected if u ask me. It sounds like ur expecting to gain very little, cmon now, are you also expecting to have minimal work outs, crappy diet, and a ****ty pct? Didnt think so. Set high but humanly possible goals, and you'll surprise yourself. I gained almost 10lbs of muscle off of tren-13 alone! But then it was during my clen cycle and clen has been said to work anabolic like in conjuntion with other anabolic like substances.
    ECA on hdrol/fura thats insane dude blood preassure would go through the roof, sorry but im not gonna do that. and i meant 6lbs in NET meaning drop like 8lbs and gain like 14lbs of muscle
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    ECA on hdrol/fura thats insane dude blood preassure would go through the roof, sorry but im not gonna do that. and i meant 6lbs in NET meaning drop like 8lbs and gain like 14lbs of muscle
    Have you seen my cycle? I'll probly have blood volcano'ing through my pores! lol. Cmon that aint the most insane cycle anybody has ever done. If a 300 pound fat dude can live long enouh to even be 300 pounds, then trust me, ull live. But on the other hand if hypertention is a problem in your family then yea thats when id start worring. But if u do decide to go through wit that then just keep a thermometer by ur side. And yea that net sounds alot better.
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    BTW- This "trisorbagen".. Does it really work?? Sounds interesting if something like this really does excist. Im on my way to google every single ingrediant it has..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    BTW- This "trisorbagen".. Does it really work?? Sounds interesting if something like this really does excist. Im on my way to google every single ingrediant it has..
    Im back. Product seems pretty sick, will possibly order some later..

    Q. Now my only question is, will my already high doses + the addition of this stuff, increase side effects aswell? Anybody wanna touch on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    I back. Product seems pretty sick, will possibly order some later..

    Q. Now my only question is, will my already high doses + the addition of this stuff, increase side effects aswell? Anybody wanna touch on that.
    in theory yes as it increases the duration and potency of ph's so a high dose of ph and this on top of it should give more sides and more results
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    ECA on hdrol/fura thats insane dude blood preassure would go through the roof, sorry but im not gonna do that. and i meant 6lbs in NET meaning drop like 8lbs and gain like 14lbs of muscle
    Indeed. Not a good idea IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seunim View Post
    Indeed. Not a good idea IMO.
    yup, i wouldnt do that
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Have you seen my cycle? I'll probly have blood volcano'ing through my pores! lol. Cmon that aint the most insane cycle anybody has ever done. If a 300 pound fat dude can live long enouh to even be 300 pounds, then trust me, ull live. But on the other hand if hypertention is a problem in your family then yea thats when id start worring. But if u do decide to go through wit that then just keep a thermometer by ur side. And yea that net sounds alot better.
    Not sound advice. Whether there's a family history of hypertension or not, the potentiation of these drugs will skyrocket BP. And whats a thermometer gonna do? lol Sphygmomanometers measure blood pressure...
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