Bigger, Faster, Stronger...Mdrol-E stane bridge log
- 05-27-2010, 08:59 AM
overdosed hawthorne last night, with taurine and added some vitamin c because i read that could play a role in blood pressure, it's just the left temple of my head that kills, maybe not a blood pressure headache? possibly from the heat but i dunno it's very annoying, other than that headache i feel good, no overwhelming lethargy....and i don't know if i should take any headache medicine because of how bad it could be for the liver
- 05-27-2010, 10:39 AM
05-27-2010, 11:45 AM
[QUOTE=jbryand101b;2441713]dhea is used more as a stabalizer hormone, and immune system booster.QUOTE]
Ive used DHEA off an on for years and have never heard it used for immune system or hormone stabilization. I have heard of it being used as part of PCT when you want your own T to boost back up to homeostasis. When he hits week 2 his hormones will be starting to get right where he wants them. He will have so much T, from the SD, that trying to boost your own is a waste of time.
Your headaches are from the SD. Up your carbs and water.
05-27-2010, 11:49 AM
05-27-2010, 12:44 PM
right on the botte of dhea i have says promotes a balanced hormone level, it also reads that it can increase estrogen, now i don't think it's strong enough for a major jump, but because of the m drol the body will have minimal estogen which leads to lethargy and thats why i have the dhea on hand
i think it's funny because side effects on the bottle list: possible hair loss, the next side affect, possible hair growth haha
05-27-2010, 12:51 PM
Im going to be eating carbs on my SD cycle up to 8 oclock at night- NOT SOMETHING I DO OFF CYCLE. It bloats me too....but muscle growth will be there and when I cut after my pct it should show...Im going to throw in cardio 3 times a week for this cycle too.. HIIT for 12-15 mins....studys show cardio can help build muscle...so a light little cardio could ward off fat and maybe help my gains...makes sense....ANYWAYS how are your gains gotti? What day is it?
05-27-2010, 01:21 PM
I like DHEA but I also wonder if it is just a mental boost more then a real one.
05-27-2010, 01:22 PM
supressed immune function usually occurs on cycles of non aromatizing steroids. know why? because of decreased estrogen. estrogen plays a key role in immune function.
being that oral dhea will mainly convert directly to estrogen, this along with stabalizing hormone function is how it boost immune system.
but dont take my anecdotal evidence, instead google "dehydroepiandrosterone immune system studies"
these three key words should take to data based studies done on dhea and it's immune boosting effects.
anyone who takes dhea by itself to boost test is an idiot. it is useless as a test booster. dhea is a parent hormone for a number of other hormones, not just testosterone, and estrodione and estrodiol.
with dhea, you have three chances of estrogen conversion, two directly, and one indirectly. not to mention the conversion can shift back and forth over and over during the half life of the pro hormone.
not trying to hijack your thread gotti, sorry.
05-27-2010, 01:35 PM
05-27-2010, 02:06 PM
what I'm saying is for a compound that will aromatize, like m14add, or 4-ad, or even boldione, there is no need for extra estrogen.
but when you use non aromatizing steroids, like superdrol, epistane, halodrol, ect. there may be a need for dhea on cycle. one particular compound, dimethazine, I would highly recomend dhea.
dhea as said before, is a starting hormone for other hormones in the body, this is how it acts a stablizer.
when using superdrol, for ex. this is going to put not only testosterone and estrogen balance out of wack, but also other hormones in the body, as the body reacts to try to restore balance.
then you get side effects like lethargy, decreased libido, gyno, ect.
dhea in small dosages, say 50mg, can be ver benificial during a harsh cycle like superdrol to combat the side effects of lethargy and libido.
even on the ps pro dienolone, dhea will keep your sex drive going.
what would be better than dhea on cycle? hcg.
but because dhea converts to multiple hormones during it's life in the body, it can act as a sort of stablizer when you have one hormone (methyl drostanalone) dominating everything else on cycle.
dhea during pct, well, I think it can help in very small dosages, for the exact same reason, but there will still be supression, however minimal it is from the dhea, will cause recovery to be slightly slower. easier to go through nothing, but still a trade off.
im more a fan of sucking it up and bear it out during pct.
05-27-2010, 10:54 PM
i don't mind hijacking, any log where ppl can learn not only how a compound is working as most ppl concentrate on but any support supplements as well which are hardly mentioned is always good
today i did legs
squatted 240 for 2....before today i was getting 225 for 6 or 7 and kinda scared to go heavier but today i said screw it....240 went up really easy though, didn't have a spotter so i got alittle worried to go any higher since i was at the gym earlier and it was empty....next week going for 260 without a doubt though, will just have someone watching me and my form instead of using a box which i'm not a fan of squatting onto
after regular squats just did a few sets of sissy squats and then moved to hack squats
i've maxed out the damn leg extension machine and since the weight rack is guarded by like two walls i can't seem to find a way to hang plates from it, so i did 1 leg at a time
also did some leg curls standing, one leg at a time, i thought this was a womens machine and used to do the double leg laying machine but this thing kills me, glad my friend showed it to me
threw in some abs in the end, yesterdays abs were mostly body weight so today i went with machines where i could add some weight...again i usually always do abs in a superset fashion
after the gym my girl wanted to walk, i thought no biggie, it'll stretch out my legs pretty good after the workout, needless to say 3 miles later in the sun i was dead....penguin walk for the next few days i'm sure....or just crawling whatever works
i'll be out of the gym the next few days, tomororw i have a bachelor party for my boy which is carrying over into some paintball saturday which hopefully will get me some good activity and hopefully break a sweat...sunday i'll be at my girls cabin but again might end up walking the woods alittle and unload some bullets since i haven't gotten to the range yet this year
05-28-2010, 02:43 AM
05-28-2010, 10:29 AM
05-28-2010, 10:47 AM
i'm not really affraid to go heavy in other lifts, i'm just weak at benching...but with squats it freaks me out, i have something called as goof slaughters (spelling) in both knees but the dr says it's worse than the normal cases, i've had it since i was like 13 but whenever i go really low or even squat down to do somehting i have the occassions when i just fall over from it so i'm always scared to have a lot of weight on my back and eat it
05-28-2010, 11:22 AM
sounds like you would benefit from a spotter when you squat. the best way to be able to push yourself to the limit with squats is if you have no fear of failure and you need a spotter to help there
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05-28-2010, 11:35 AM
05-28-2010, 05:16 PM
day off is going to feel so good tonight...i'm beat up from the past weeks workouts, going home to load up on some bcaa's, get ready for the bachelor party tonight, not drinking but i plan on having a big meal, maybe get some cranberry juices at the bars, and let the healing and regrowth continue
05-28-2010, 07:57 PM
05-31-2010, 04:27 PM
it's been a few days since i updated anything, had a long weekend, bachelor party on friday which carried over into saturday paintball and spent sunday in the woods
paintball was in a warehouse so it was hot as hell mixed with quick moves i actually felt like a got a nice workout that day
got to the gym today to my surprise the girl working said they were closing in 45 minutes because of the holiday so i wasn't to happy hearing that
then actually got into the gym to see that all 5 flat benches were taken up with what looked to be a powerlifting convention, i never saw so many guys in the gym with bench shirts on...maybe because no one had work they all met up, so i had to change my routine around
started with incline barbell press, went up to 165 for 3 on my last set, it was nice that all the guys were there because i had a reliable spotter to push that weight
couldn't get on flat bench so i went to hammer strength press machine, got 2 plates on each side which has been a goal of mine for awhile now, just haven't been using that press
went into cable crossovers, nothing special, a couple sets at high and a couple sets at shoulder height
started with supersetting overhand cable pushdowns with underhand cable pull downs
then did some rope pulldown extensions
finally did a push down machine, last time i maxed the machine and hung 15lbs of plates onto it, today i got the same amount of reps but was able to hang 30lbs onto the machine
so after trying to get a good pump at chest and tri's in the amount of time given, the girl told us the owner wasn't back yet and we could continue to workout until he came back...so i said oh well and did a chest machine for 3 sets aiming for 6-8 reps, then 3 sets on a tricep machine for the same reps and alternated for about another 20 minutes or so until we all got the boot from the gym
weight this morning was 159lbs....so up 10lbs, which was odd because all week my weight wasn't moving and actually had a few days that looked like i was going to be down weight going into my 3rd week
06-01-2010, 09:34 AM
Keep pushin bro. Ive been lurking in your log here. One question, how many days did it take for you to feel ON, with mdrol?
06-01-2010, 09:53 AM
didn't really feel stronger until day 3 or 4
i noticed lethargy right around day 5, had a nasty headache somewhere
around day 10 that kind of went away but lingers from time to time
haven't really noticed any agressiveness yet, and vascularity pretty much only during training
06-01-2010, 11:31 AM
good stuff man keep it going
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