This time around on M1T
- 05-07-2004, 09:47 PM
This time around on M1T
I'm using Pro-Sust, HCG, and Taurine (1 heaping tablespoon/day, somewhere around 3 grams). Testosterone has been steady in the 1300-1700ng/dl range, libido is ****ing incredible, I've turned into Sophistapimp , No aparent sides including no nosebleeds, no back pumps, no lethargy. Balls are big
Some interesting lab findings: From only 1 heaping tablespoon a day of Taurine, my Potassium is high (5.48, Normal:3.60-5.10)
Glucose was 52 (pretty low) only 2.5-3hrs after eating 2 Powerbar Harvest bars.
HDL is very low (7.4), haven't found a way to counteract that, yet
Yeah and Lion's Letrozole is the real deal. Estradiol went from 90.65 to 6.87 after I started dosing.
- 05-07-2004, 10:30 PM
05-07-2004, 11:28 PM
Are you running ALA with this? If so, how much?
I ask because I believe it was you who used ALA and saw an improvement in liver enzyme levels. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
05-07-2004, 11:31 PM
You're right, but I'm haven't used ALA in the past week. I think I'll start using it again in another week, though.
05-08-2004, 12:26 AM
Looks cool man. Maybe try downing a few eggs everyday to help the HDL?? It did seem to help my gains last M1T cycle but I never did blood work..so pure speculation.
It'd be nice if could figure out how to keep the gains steady on M1T. Is it the HDL, the shutdown? It'd sure be nice to know.
05-10-2004, 03:13 AM
05-10-2004, 03:41 AM
holy ****, i dont even know what kind of ass explosions ill be having if i had that.Originally Posted by supersoldier
05-10-2004, 03:48 AM
Yeah but I'm thinking more of the weight explosions I'll be having. ****, a 75/25 or 60/40 mix of that and micellar casein or MPI, mix it up and drink some before you go to bed, stick it in the fridge and drink some more when you wake up to piss in the middle of the night. You're set. I swear I only make serious gains in size/strength when I mix some flax oil in my protein and drink it in the middle of the night on the way back from the bathroom. But since I bought the GTI I can't afford flax oil anymore .
05-10-2004, 03:57 AM
Damn, sounds like a total inconvinience bro, but hey... you gotta do what you gotta do. As a blend with some good quality MPI, yeah I agree, it would be pretty awesome. I'm currently just having a 50/50 eggwhite/casein and spiked it with BSL spray dried beef plasma blend before bed and works pretty well, but its f'n expensive
05-10-2004, 04:04 AM
I use 40%MPI, 20%CFM Whey; 20%Micellar; 10%Ultra Hydro Whey, and 10%Egg White as my all purpose protein. It's the staple of my diet. I go through 10lbs in 2-3 weeks.
05-10-2004, 04:43 AM
Damn, too rich for me. 10lbs in 2-3 weeks.... hmm, i think i can make mine last like 4-5, so its not entirely too bad. Been gettin stingy with it though so I dont have to go buy more, lol.Originally Posted by supersoldier
05-10-2004, 07:29 AM
A plasma glucose of 52 is very dangerous. Any lower and you probably would pass out, maybe forever.Originally Posted by supersoldier
Are you doing insulin? I have gotten that low before after insulin, food, and then exercise a few hours later. I can tell immediately because I break out in a cold sweat, shaking, week and nauseous.
If you're not on slin, you must be doing some hellacious workouts! Make sure you eat some carbs before working out, dude!
Going to 52 is not as dangerous if you are not on slin (or diabetic like I am), because your liver should release a burst of glucose unless you have depleted the glycogen stores in your liver through a ketogenic diet. But still be careful.
05-10-2004, 07:34 AM
05-10-2004, 02:10 PM
05-10-2004, 06:55 PM
I have and have an awesome porcelin workout afterwards.
Pricey egg protein..might work but damn the farts would be unholy. My wife already gives me dirty looks when she sees me downing a big shake, lol.
I just think the low HDL thing is interesting and hypothetically could be linked to the drop off in gains we all get on M1T.
Since SS has access to lab work and likely high HDL foods maybe he could be our guinea pig once again to test this hypothesis? Hehe.
05-10-2004, 08:40 PM
Hah. Yeah, he said to start out small or you'd be spending some time on the throne. How much did you try? Personally, I'll never have to worry about it; I'm the antiecto.Originally Posted by bioman
05-10-2004, 11:15 PM
05-11-2004, 12:44 AM
I'm gonna buy a few pounds of the whole egg protein soon. That place looks to be pretty good, cheap Taurine too. They sponsor another board.
05-11-2004, 04:04 AM
More Interesting Lab Findings
FSH 2.84 I don't get it.
Progesterone 2.44 A bit on the high side. Might be where these guys are getting the gyno from.
Glucose 64 Low
AST 142; ALT 114; LDH 354 All high All other liver tests are normal low.
Cholesterol 130; HDL 6.0
To get these (Chemistry) results you need to spin down clotted blood to get serum. After spinning I swear it looked like about 75% of it was packed RBC's (hematocrit) . After seeing that I drank a ton of water and ran a CBC, which is done with whole blood with anticoagulant, and my hematocrit was 47.7% which is normal for me.
Estradiol is 0.00 even though I haven't taken any Letro in about 3 days.
Cortisol 6.82; Prolactin 6.52; LH 0.00
05-12-2004, 08:33 AM
05-12-2004, 10:24 AM
05-12-2004, 10:29 AM
05-12-2004, 10:50 AM
I saw the Pro-Sust, HCG, and Taurine, but what is your dose of M1T? Pro-Sust is an injectable (short and long-chain 4-AD esters, right?), so no M1T there.
I'm on M1T, first methyl cycle, and even at low doses I can feel it f'ing with my body. I take 4 grams+ of Taurine, drink a ton of water, and still get BAD back cramps.
Have you tried to do any cardio on this cycle?
05-12-2004, 05:28 PM
Make sure you start addressing that progesterone and prolactin before cessation of the cycle. ick.
Have no idea why Progest is being upped. Strange.
Read something in L Rhea's site about a "cholesterol backup" that occurs prior to it cycling thru the liver when a person is on AAS. If this continues over a long time it can result in fatty liver. Based on this, MIT is socking it to the liver so hard that HDL isn't processed/created and drops to absurdly low levels. This would negate my hypothesis that M1T is causing such rapid protein synthesis that available cholesterol is being used in the construction of new muscle tissue. Someone with more knowledge than I should probably address this.
Oh the brutality of M1T! I'll have to re-consider how much I want to stockpile.
05-12-2004, 08:41 PM
what are the effects of fasting for 12 hrs prior to getting blood work done? have you been fasting prior to this bloodwork? what results could possibly be skewed b/c of that? glucose/triglycerides im thinking?
i'll do some more google'ing later to figure this out.. but I didn't find much after 15 minutes. only that you're suppsed to fast.
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