***First Epistane Cycle, would like some input?

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    Smile ***First Epistane Cycle, would like some input?


    Hey guys ive been doing alot of research for my first epistane cycle. This is the second PH ive ran so i would like to get some input on what you guys think. Ive been working out for years now and i want to get a boost but i wanna do it right.

    Cycle assist: 2 weeks before, during and post cycle.

    IBE Epistane: 20/20/30/30

    PCT: due to the fact i cant get my hands on nolva or clomid ill be running
    6-oxo and maybe sustain alpha? should i run both or would i be over doing it? Also, ive been reading that a SERM isnt needed for epistane.

    Reduce XT: the last two weeks of PCT

    Supports:
    Activate Xtreme
    Jack3d
    Krillipid Balance
    Fish Oils
    Liver supports
    Joint supports

    Is there aything i should add or get rid of? Be easy, im trying to sort this all out and i dont plan to start anything till i have everything laid out and perfect.

    Appreciate the help

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    if u can get steroids, u can get a SERM.....personally i wouldnt touch the cycle without at least having one there just in case
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    if u can get steroids, u can get a SERM.....personally i wouldnt touch the cycle without at least having one there just in case
    ok im gonna try to get a hold of some then, other then that what u think?
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    id run the epi 30/30/30/30....its pretty mild. and save the activate extreme for PCT
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    I wouldn't use Jack3d on cycle- don't want your blood pressure too high
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    Get yourself a digital heart rate monitor. It's worth every penny.

    Let me emphasize the digital part. A manual sphygmamanometer can be a pain in the ass, and has a degree of observer bias depending on the doctor/user.

    Consider ZMA and I3C for PCT. They made a big difference for me, atleast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totenkopf View Post
    Get yourself a digital heart rate monitor. It's worth every penny.

    Let me emphasize the digital part. A manual sphygmamanometer can be a pain in the ass, and has a degree of observer bias depending on the doctor/user.

    Consider ZMA and I3C for PCT. They made a big difference for me, atleast.
    ZMA helps increase natural testosterone right? wouldnt i be over doing it with sustain alpha and 6 oxo and ZMA?
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    I personally found 40 to be the sweet spot for me with epi.

    I'd ramp it up to 30 the 2nd week, and assess your tolerance. You might want to bump it up to 40 on week 4.

    I used to think I couldn't get my hands on a serm and went the otc route for my first cycle. After a bit of research I found they are really not that hard to get.

    You can go the otc route and probably get away with it, but I wouldn't recommend it, it's always best to use a serm for safe measure.
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