methyl dien results?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by size
    Gains evenly distributed over the 4 weeks?
    We really didnt notice much till about the middle or end of the second week. Maybe 2 or 3 lbs the first 2 weeks then everything started working real nice. Strength increases were excellant the last 2 weeks. I havent maxed out since high school and we decided to push ourselves alittle hardier the other day for leg day. He got 480 for 10 and I got it for 8. thats after 5 full sets of squats. He's 5'9" so his range of movement is a lot less then mine so I figured 8 was pretty good for me that night. I cramped so bad in the shower that night. Thank god Ive got a bench in my shower and plenty of leg room. I also made my stretch marks on my legs a little worse. My wife saw them that night and said they look crazy. They normally get bright red when I go heavy. That night the edges and the ends (were it looks like they grew during that workout) were dark purple and the insides were blood red. They dont hurt and they are not noticeable unless Im naked but I would be much happier without them. Some of them ****ers are like fingerwide trenches in my thighs. There really bad near my nuts.
    COOL STORY HUH?

    db


  2. Damn bro those sound like some good gains.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by db682
    We really didnt notice much till about the middle or end of the second week. Maybe 2 or 3 lbs the first 2 weeks then everything started working real nice. Strength increases were excellant the last 2 weeks. db
    Hmm. I will run out just after the 3 week mark. Perhaps it will be worth it to order one more bottle and push it a little past 4 weeks?

  4. good thread,guys...lets keep this up!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by db682
    My buddy and I just finished 4 weeks of MD. Liquid of course and we both had excellant results. He was running 4mg ed and I was running 6.He went from 209 to like 218 and the guys ripped to shreds and only 5' 9". I went from 240 to 251 and was trying to cut up as well and did an excellent job at droping bf while on cycle. I honestly like the **** a hell of alot more then M1T because M1T had me so down and out from the sides that I gained alot but was so suppressed afterwards that it wasnt worth it. Thank god for cialis and viagra.

    db
    does m1t really suppress you that bad?? damn maybe I should get some cialis?

    my gurl will kill me.. how long does it suppress you post cycle??
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by propho
    does m1t really suppress you that bad?? damn maybe I should get some cialis?

    my gurl will kill me.. how long does it suppress you post cycle??
    Yes it really is that bad. If you think the sides (lethargy, app. suppresion and libido) were bad while on wait till you get off and your body has zero testosterone following through it (natural or not). It was definitly a ****ty couple weeks afterwards. I would hate to have used Clomid PC for that ****. Then you would add extremly bitchy, depressed even worse and moody.

    Top it off with the fact that you cant concentrate on anything, especially sex, and therefore 5 mins into ****ing your dick just lays down and plays dead. If you aint got viagra or cialis before that occurs then you will definitly learn to make up some of the most creative excuses for your limp dick. And you better make them good because you know damn well your chick will tell her friends, and theyll tell there friends and next thing you know the whole state knows your weak in the bed.

    db

  7. Yes it is very suppressive.

  8. Its an extremely rough compound.

  9. I finished up a 4 week solo M1T cycle and have had no problems in the bedroom. My libido dropped a little but not too bad. I don't feel that suppressed but PCT should be interesting.

  10. DB - what was your dozage at??

  11. I must be lucky, even though my libido was down post M1T, it wasnt as bad as all of you are saying...

  12. Quote Originally Posted by sweet-physique

    I would also be very interested in more feedabck from SS.
    Here's my take on M-Dien. It works great at a good dose (around 5mg) given that you don't have any problems with it holding in solution, like I did. The tabs should be great for accurate dosing. I feel it is definitely more mild than M1T in every aspect, and for me worked great to keep muscle while dieting. I didn't have huge increases in strength like I did with M1T, but I was bulking with 6,000+cals/day on M1T and dieting with 2,000-2,500cals/day on M-Dien. My liver enzymes didn't get nearly as high as they did with M1T, but the biggest overall health difference I saw between the two is that M-Dien didn't totally **** my lipid profile like M1T did. In about 4+weeks of M-Dien my HDL went from around 45-50 to about 37-39. On M1T HDL hits about 4-7 in a matter of days.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier
    Here's my take on M-Dien. It works great at a good dose (around 5mg) given that you don't have any problems with it holding in solution, like I did. The tabs should be great for accurate dosing. I feel it is definitely more mild than M1T in every aspect, and for me worked great to keep muscle while dieting. I didn't have huge increases in strength like I did with M1T, but I was bulking with 6,000+cals/day on M1T and dieting with 2,000-2,500cals/day on M-Dien. My liver enzymes didn't get nearly as high as they did with M1T, but the biggest overall health difference I saw between the two is that M-Dien didn't totally **** my lipid profile like M1T did. In about 4+weeks of M-Dien my HDL went from around 45-50 to about 37-39. On M1T HDL hits about 4-7 in a matter of days.

    And THAT, IMHO, is why we see the rapid gains on M1T level out so quickly. Whenever I get some M1T powder I'm going to see if low dosing it is the way to go..like maybe 1mg per day or twice a day run with 4AD or test base. Anywho, yes M1T is a harsh and suppressive mistress. In 14 days you'll go from feeling god-like to dog-poo. The recovery time can be pretty lengthy as well.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    DB - what was your dozage at??
    My doses started at 20mg ed and I ended the cycle at after 5 weeks at 40 mg ed.
    first two weeks were @ 20.
    3rd and 4th week @ 30
    5th week @ 40

    I had to keep increasing the dose because as mention already the gains starting leveling off quite early.

    db

  15. Quote Originally Posted by db682
    My doses started at 20mg ed and I ended the cycle at after 5 weeks at 40 mg ed.
    first two weeks were @ 20.
    3rd and 4th week @ 30
    5th week @ 40

    I had to keep increasing the dose because as mention already the gains starting leveling off quite early.

    db

    20,30,40mg? We are talking about Methyl Dien correct?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    20,30,40mg? We are talking about Methyl Dien correct?
    I think he's talking m1t

  17. Quote Originally Posted by LittleMonster
    I think he's talking m1t
    Correct.
    My Last cycle of Mdien was @ 2.5mg twice a day. Loved it.

    db

  18. ok cool, i was about to say...

  19. what if you were to chew the MD ? would it react faster?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by themadman
    what if you were to chew the MD ? would it react faster?
    that's a joke,right?

  21. well I can see what he means.. cuz a lot of things if you chew them will effect you quicker.. but this is not the case when it comes to pH's.. for example back when I used to take E I would chew it up so it would work faster and hit me harder..

  22. Quote Originally Posted by themadman
    what if you were to chew the MD ? would it react faster?

    w/ Grapefruit Juice gets my vote. proven effective

  23. Anyone notice any significant hairloss? Anyone who is prone to on cycle? Would it be a bad idea to continue using finasteride while on MD?

    Thanks,

    Jacob

  24. Quote Originally Posted by propho
    well I can see what he means.. cuz a lot of things if you chew them will effect you quicker.. but this is not the case when it comes to pH's.. for example back when I used to take E I would chew it up so it would work faster and hit me harder..
    that is what i was trying to get across,cuz i know that with some drugs,meds,ect they say not to chew cuz it will intenceify the effects.

  25. The reason some drugs such as lortab are more potent when you chew them up is because they are time released,and when you chew them up it is no longer time released.

  26. how does stacking MD with some type of NO2(LG cold fusion) sound?
    It seems that most are getting leaner and harder on MD,so if you were to stack it with NO2(LG cold fusion) I think the pumps and hardness would would be insane.

  27. I used DS's m-dien at 4mg for two weeks on a cutting cycle. The results were great, I lost about four pounds of fat and gained a few pounds of muscle. The results far exceeded my expectations. The training log is over at Avant called "Two Week Cut."

  28. I took NO2 for about a month and a half and it did'nt do anything for me.I got my bloodwork when I was taking it and my kidney values were all sky high,I quit taking it and they went back to normal.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Bennett
    I took NO2 for about a month and a half and it did'nt do anything for me.I got my bloodwork when I was taking it and my kidney values were all sky high,I quit taking it and they went back to normal.
    interesting...

  30. I'm almost done with week 2 on Designersupp's MD, using 5mg a day. I must say I haven't gained any weight at all since the start of this cycle, but strength is up on most exercises still and pumps are very nice. Something I've noticed over the past few days is that I've either gotten bigger or I managed to shrink all of my shirts in the wash this past week. All of my shirts are much tighter around the arms and back. Veins in the calves are sticking out more than normal as well, so this stuff might be kicking in now. Still have a few weeks left to fully assess this stuff, but I hope this is the start of something good!
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