methyl dien results?
- 05-06-2004, 12:27 AM
Originally Posted by size
COOL STORY HUH?
- 05-06-2004, 02:22 AM
05-06-2004, 02:28 AM
Hmm. I will run out just after the 3 week mark. Perhaps it will be worth it to order one more bottle and push it a little past 4 weeks?Originally Posted by db682
05-06-2004, 02:42 AM
05-06-2004, 10:38 AM
does m1t really suppress you that bad?? damn maybe I should get some cialis?Originally Posted by db682
my gurl will kill me.. how long does it suppress you post cycle??
05-06-2004, 11:53 AM
Yes it really is that bad. If you think the sides (lethargy, app. suppresion and libido) were bad while on wait till you get off and your body has zero testosterone following through it (natural or not). It was definitly a ****ty couple weeks afterwards. I would hate to have used Clomid PC for that ****. Then you would add extremly bitchy, depressed even worse and moody.Originally Posted by propho
Top it off with the fact that you cant concentrate on anything, especially sex, and therefore 5 mins into ****ing your dick just lays down and plays dead. If you aint got viagra or cialis before that occurs then you will definitly learn to make up some of the most creative excuses for your limp dick. And you better make them good because you know damn well your chick will tell her friends, and theyll tell there friends and next thing you know the whole state knows your weak in the bed.
05-06-2004, 02:12 PM
05-06-2004, 03:02 PM
05-06-2004, 03:17 PM
I finished up a 4 week solo M1T cycle and have had no problems in the bedroom. My libido dropped a little but not too bad. I don't feel that suppressed but PCT should be interesting.
05-06-2004, 03:38 PM
05-06-2004, 09:41 PM
I must be lucky, even though my libido was down post M1T, it wasnt as bad as all of you are saying...
05-06-2004, 10:09 PM
Here's my take on M-Dien. It works great at a good dose (around 5mg) given that you don't have any problems with it holding in solution, like I did. The tabs should be great for accurate dosing. I feel it is definitely more mild than M1T in every aspect, and for me worked great to keep muscle while dieting. I didn't have huge increases in strength like I did with M1T, but I was bulking with 6,000+cals/day on M1T and dieting with 2,000-2,500cals/day on M-Dien. My liver enzymes didn't get nearly as high as they did with M1T, but the biggest overall health difference I saw between the two is that M-Dien didn't totally **** my lipid profile like M1T did. In about 4+weeks of M-Dien my HDL went from around 45-50 to about 37-39. On M1T HDL hits about 4-7 in a matter of days.Originally Posted by sweet-physique
05-07-2004, 01:43 AM
Originally Posted by supersoldier
And THAT, IMHO, is why we see the rapid gains on M1T level out so quickly. Whenever I get some M1T powder I'm going to see if low dosing it is the way to go..like maybe 1mg per day or twice a day run with 4AD or test base. Anywho, yes M1T is a harsh and suppressive mistress. In 14 days you'll go from feeling god-like to dog-poo. The recovery time can be pretty lengthy as well.
05-07-2004, 09:19 AM
My doses started at 20mg ed and I ended the cycle at after 5 weeks at 40 mg ed.Originally Posted by Deoudes59
first two weeks were @ 20.
3rd and 4th week @ 30
5th week @ 40
I had to keep increasing the dose because as mention already the gains starting leveling off quite early.
05-07-2004, 01:42 PM
05-07-2004, 01:43 PM
05-07-2004, 02:32 PM
Correct.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
My Last cycle of Mdien was @ 2.5mg twice a day. Loved it.
05-07-2004, 03:50 PM
05-08-2004, 12:37 AM
05-08-2004, 01:26 AM
05-08-2004, 02:16 AM
well I can see what he means.. cuz a lot of things if you chew them will effect you quicker.. but this is not the case when it comes to pH's.. for example back when I used to take E I would chew it up so it would work faster and hit me harder..
05-08-2004, 02:22 AM
05-08-2004, 04:13 AM
Anyone notice any significant hairloss? Anyone who is prone to on cycle? Would it be a bad idea to continue using finasteride while on MD?
05-08-2004, 01:22 PM
that is what i was trying to get across,cuz i know that with some drugs,meds,ect they say not to chew cuz it will intenceify the effects.Originally Posted by propho
05-08-2004, 01:38 PM
The reason some drugs such as lortab are more potent when you chew them up is because they are time released,and when you chew them up it is no longer time released.
05-08-2004, 02:01 PM
how does stacking MD with some type of NO2(LG cold fusion) sound?
It seems that most are getting leaner and harder on MD,so if you were to stack it with NO2(LG cold fusion) I think the pumps and hardness would would be insane.
05-08-2004, 02:06 PM
I used DS's m-dien at 4mg for two weeks on a cutting cycle. The results were great, I lost about four pounds of fat and gained a few pounds of muscle. The results far exceeded my expectations. The training log is over at Avant called "Two Week Cut."
05-08-2004, 02:08 PM
I took NO2 for about a month and a half and it did'nt do anything for me.I got my bloodwork when I was taking it and my kidney values were all sky high,I quit taking it and they went back to normal.
05-08-2004, 07:47 PM
05-09-2004, 04:48 PM
I'm almost done with week 2 on Designersupp's MD, using 5mg a day. I must say I haven't gained any weight at all since the start of this cycle, but strength is up on most exercises still and pumps are very nice. Something I've noticed over the past few days is that I've either gotten bigger or I managed to shrink all of my shirts in the wash this past week. All of my shirts are much tighter around the arms and back. Veins in the calves are sticking out more than normal as well, so this stuff might be kicking in now. Still have a few weeks left to fully assess this stuff, but I hope this is the start of something good!
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