dermacrine solo or with 11-oxo

  1. dermacrine solo or with 11-oxo


    11-oxo melts fat off me it's crazy, but the slight joint pain is a major disadvantage.

    basically my question is will dermacrine help with adding estrogen to the joint while on 11-oxo or should I go dermacrine solo?


  2. I think derm will help you feel better, strange I have never heard of someone have dry joints from 11-oxo

  3. Quote Originally Posted by jayts22 View Post
    I think derm will help you feel better, strange I have never heard of someone have dry joints from 11-oxo
    its different when your extremely active and below 10% bodyfat.
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  4. Low cortisol leads to joint pain.

  5. I had two ideas

    week 1-2 10mg SD
    week 1-6 dermacrine 4 pumps daily
    weeks 1-2 10mg epi,weeks 2-6 epi 20-30 mg

    or

    week 1-2 10mg SD daily
    week 1-6 dermacrine 4 pumps daily
    week 2-6 150-225mg 11-oxo daily


    I don't know for sure since epi and 11-oxo both cause some joint discomfort to some degree.

  6. AndroHard would be another option. Either way, I would pick it up during the current sale, everything is up to 40% off

  7. from this stack I really am hoping on 40+ lbs on deadlift and squat and get rid of the bodyfat I somehow have for 8-9% bodyfat.


    and I was think fareston for pct 50mg daily for 4 weeks

  8. Quote Originally Posted by bigdeepsquats View Post
    from this stack I really am hoping on 40+ lbs on deadlift and squat and get rid of the bodyfat I somehow have for 8-9% bodyfat.


    and I was think fareston for pct 50mg daily for 4 weeks
    youd probably be able to get away with lighter than that as PCT. Neither are that suppressive.

    The 2 will insure that you get cut up
  

  
 

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