dermacrine solo or with 11-oxo

[bigdeepsquats]

11-oxo melts fat off me it's crazy, but the slight joint pain is a major disadvantage.

basically my question is will dermacrine help with adding estrogen to the joint while on 11-oxo or should I go dermacrine solo?

 

[jaydollars]

I think derm will help you feel better, strange I have never heard of someone have dry joints from 11-oxo

 

[bigdeepsquats]

I think derm will help you feel better, strange I have never heard of someone have dry joints from 11-oxo

its different when your extremely active and below 10% bodyfat.

 

[Mikey851]

Low cortisol leads to joint pain.

 

[bigdeepsquats]

I had two ideas

week 1-2 10mg SD
week 1-6 dermacrine 4 pumps daily
weeks 1-2 10mg epi,weeks 2-6 epi 20-30 mg

or

week 1-2 10mg SD daily
week 1-6 dermacrine 4 pumps daily
week 2-6 150-225mg 11-oxo daily


I don't know for sure since epi and 11-oxo both cause some joint discomfort to some degree.

 

[Jimbo15]

AndroHard would be another option. Either way, I would pick it up during the current sale, everything is up to 40% off

 

[bigdeepsquats]

from this stack I really am hoping on 40+ lbs on deadlift and squat and get rid of the bodyfat I somehow have for 8-9% bodyfat.


and I was think fareston for pct 50mg daily for 4 weeks

 

[WIULifter]

from this stack I really am hoping on 40+ lbs on deadlift and squat and get rid of the bodyfat I somehow have for 8-9% bodyfat.


and I was think fareston for pct 50mg daily for 4 weeks

youd probably be able to get away with lighter than that as PCT. Neither are that suppressive.

The 2 will insure that you get cut up