Tren & H-drol stack HELP! ! !

[gymrat827]

Need some advice/help here. About me- 26, I have ran 3 cycles before this one i am about to start. All of the 3 were injectables, but I did take anadrol-50 orals for 6wks. The real gear i ran was- Test enth & EQ(14wks)next one was Text enth & anadrol (8wk) lastly, Test prop & Masteron.(8wk) 6ft tall, 190lbs.

My goal is to lose 8-10lbs of fat and gain 5lbs of muscle back. I think i chose to two products to stack that will work well together and should accomplish my goals.

For this cycle I am going to be taking:

Black Dragon Labs TrenV 700
CEL- h drol

liver support- Milk thistle, Cranberry pills.-starting 15 days pre-cycle-till PCT is done.
joint- Animal Flex
Overall-fish/flax/cla & complex omega3-6-9, Anabolic innovations Life support, ON multi vit
PCT- Hypertest, AI PCT, Forslean, Inhibit-E 2/2/1/1, CLOMID 50/50/25/25
1 gallon H20

P5P& Vitex-Both NOW brand. Taurine-- Taking 2 doses of all three items during cycle.

I am worried about shutdown, what should i do to stop the it?

If you have ran something similar please chime in and put in your 2 cents. thanx

 

[farrellzach]

Don't take offense to this, brah because I'm nowhere near 190lbs, but 6ft and 190 after 3 inj cycles just does't seem right to me.

And I would definitely get a SERM for PCT

everything else looks pretty legit

 

[purelife1]

i would have some clomid on hand just in case..if you want to help from shutting down you may want to add some Dermacrine to this cycle

 

[gymrat827]

i had no clue to what i was doing when on the injectables, I was in college. I got everything from a friend who was 5'10, 285. I just did what he said, never questioned his advice or looked online to confirm it.

It was bad advice and one of the dumbest things ive done in my lifetime. I would always lose a lot of my gains post cycle. I have now learned my lesson.

I also started at 155lbs. On cycles I was 210 at peak. But with more BF than what i have now.

On this up coming cycle I want to loose 12lbs of mainly fat and gain back 6-8lbs in extremely lean muscle.

 

[farrellzach]

i had no clue to what i was doing when on the injectables, I was in college. I got everything from a friend who was 5'10, 285. I just did what he said, never questioned his advice or looked online to confirm it.

It was bad advice and one of the dumbest things ive done in my lifetime. I would always lose a lot of my gains post cycle. I have now learned my lesson.

I also started at 155lbs. On cycles I was 210 at peak. But with more BF than what i have now.

On this up coming cycle I want to loose 12lbs of mainly fat and gain back 6-8lbs in extremely lean muscle.

Oh oh I got you now, I was figuring something like that happened. Well, like I said- overall the cycle looks good but with Tren I would have some Clomid on had for PCT to help that shutdown. Otherwise as long as your diet is good and you lift hard, you'll get the gains in LBM.

 

[gymrat827]

yeah, Ive gone up and down in weight and muscle quite a bit. I am looking forward to that **** stopping with this cycle.

I'll search for Clomid, it looks like i really need it. Thanks.

Knowing what I do now I am surprised that some of the guys i was gym buddies with did not die because of how many things they would stack(tes,tren,EQ,masteron,anadrol50,insulin,deca,D-bol, winny). Then how much coke, whiskey, newbain, adderal, etc they would consume. It was redic, and now that i know what would be going inside ones body it is amazing how much abuse you can really handle. Especially if your 200lbs+.

 

[Duality]

Clomid or Nolvadex. Lot of people seem to prefer Nolvadex for their SERM of choice. Unless one of the previous posters know of a reason to use clomid specifically? I'm curious myself so figured I'd post.

 

[farrellzach]

Clomid or Nolvadex. Lot of people seem to prefer Nolvadex for their SERM of choice. Unless one of the previous posters know of a reason to use clomid specifically? I'm curious myself so figured I'd post.

From what I've heard, Clomid gets Progestin out of your system a little better than Nolvadex. Tren helps produce that so it's more of just a precautionary deal.

 

[purelife1]

From what I've heard, Clomid gets Progestin out of your system a little better than Nolvadex. Tren helps produce that so it's more of just a precautionary deal.

BINGO use clomid not nolva

 

[farrellzach]

BINGO use clomid not nolva

Pure, what would you recommend for a dosing protocol? 25 all the way through or 50/50/25/25?

 

[gymrat827]

I ordered Clomid, 60, 50mg tablets. Its on the way!!

I really think Clomid is better for this stack. I have researched and started a few threads.

For Inhibit E & Clomid 2/2/1/1 & 50/50/25/25

 

[farrellzach]

I ordered Clomid, 60, 50mg tablets. Its on the way!!

I really think Clomid is better for this stack. I have researched and started a few threads.

For Inhibit E & Clomid 2/2/1/1 & 50/50/25/25

Nice dude you should be straight with your cycle then. You should log it for sure!

Good Luck, bro.

 

[gymrat827]

now that i added Clomid, what to I do to avoid complete shutdown??
Ive got the Vitex & P5P for gyno, taurine for back. but what do i do to keep somewhat of a sex drive?

i read one thread of a similar stack (m-drol instead of H, stacked with tren) where i guy was taking Tribulus to help out? ? He said it worked pretty good, he was still able to use his unit.

I am weary about using something natural when running 2 PH's, i dont think anything natural would do sh!t?


thoughts???

 

[farrellzach]

now that i added Clomid, what to I do to avoid complete shutdown??
Ive got the Vitex & P5P for gyno, taurine for back. but what do i do to keep somewhat of a sex drive?

i read one thread of a similar stack (m-drol instead of H, stacked with tren) where i guy was taking Tribulus to help out? ? He said it worked pretty good, he was still able to use his unit.

I am weary about using something natural when running 2 PH's, i dont think anything natural would do sh!t?


thoughts???

Here's what I've been reading up on for the same question

Horny goat weed and b6 for libido/erection issues


Anyone confirm that those two combined can help?

 

[gymrat827]

i really think natural stuff isnt going to do it. I am still going to try but dont think it will happen.:smirk: