m4ohn + 4oht and 1test

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  1. I'm a little unclear on what would be the best dosage for a cycle I plan to do. I was thinking of 4 weeks of m4ohn along with a transdermal from PowerNutrition. If I get 5 grams of 1-test and 2.5 grams of 4-hydroxy testosterone for my T-gel, is that enough for 4 weeks? And, if so, how much of each am I getting in one "pump"? I was planning on doing 5mg of the m4ohn/day every day and want to make sure I'm using enough transdermal as well.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
    Nor-Diol converts to Nandrolone and 4AD to Test, both using the 3HSD enzyme. It's said that two PHs using the same conversion enzyme can limit the full effect of each other because of this sharing.

    But, as Onslaught and Sledge caught, M4OHN is already Nanadralone, so no conversion, no competition, never mind.

    Doubt it. The enzymatic process is almost instantaneous. So when it happens, its bascially free in an instant to convert more circulating PH. The theory about saturation is just that, theory. Its not a very good one either.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by psywzrd
    I'm a little unclear on what would be the best dosage for a cycle I plan to do. I was thinking of 4 weeks of m4ohn along with a transdermal from PowerNutrition. If I get 5 grams of 1-test and 2.5 grams of 4-hydroxy testosterone for my T-gel, is that enough for 4 weeks? And, if so, how much of each am I getting in one "pump"? I was planning on doing 5mg of the m4ohn/day every day and want to make sure I'm using enough transdermal as well.
    In a 120ml bottle you would get 5000mg/120ml of 1Test = 41.6mg/ml
    and 2500mg/120ml of 4oht = 20.8 mg/ml

    each squirt is 2ml so that would be about 83.2mg of 1test and 41.6mg of 4ad.

    1 bottle will last for
    1squirt a day would last 120days, 2squirts a day for 60days, 4squirts a day for a 30 days cycle

    So you could do 4 squirts a day (2 in the am and 2 12 hours later) giving you a daily total of 332mg of 1test a day and 166mg of 4oht.

    I can't remeber the dosing on m4ohn, I think if they say its 10X as strong as anavar then it would be (body weight X .2)/10. For me thats (.2 X 200 )/10 = 4 mg

    Does that make sense or am I rambling, damn keto diet has me in a fog.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Jeff
    In a 120ml bottle you would get 5000mg/120ml of 1Test = 41.6mg/ml
    and 2500mg/120ml of 4oht = 20.8 mg/ml

    each squirt is 2ml so that would be about 83.2mg of 1test and 41.6mg of 4ad.

    1 bottle will last for
    1squirt a day would last 120days, 2squirts a day for 60days, 4squirts a day for a 30 days cycle

    So you could do 4 squirts a day (2 in the am and 2 12 hours later) giving you a daily total of 332mg of 1test a day and 166mg of 4oht.

    I can't remeber the dosing on m4ohn, I think if they say its 10X as strong as anavar then it would be (body weight X .2)/10. For me thats (.2 X 200 )/10 = 4 mg

    Does that make sense or am I rambling, damn keto diet has me in a fog.
    That actually makes perfect sense to me - the keto diet doesn't appear to be affecting your brain at all . Thanks for the info!

    Is that 4 squirts/day dose a good amount for a cycle? I'd rather be a little conservative since this is my first cycle using transdermals but I want to make sure I do enough to get results. Also, according to your calculations I would only need around 3.5mg/day of the m4ohn? Would it be really stupid for me to do 5mg/day or is that ok? I'm leaning toward getting 5mg capsules so that's why I'm asking.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by psywzrd
    That actually makes perfect sense to me - the keto diet doesn't appear to be affecting your brain at all . Thanks for the info!

    Is that 4 squirts/day dose a good amount for a cycle? I'd rather be a little conservative since this is my first cycle using transdermals but I want to make sure I do enough to get results. Also, according to your calculations I would only need around 3.5mg/day of the m4ohn? Would it be really stupid for me to do 5mg/day or is that ok? I'm leaning toward getting 5mg capsules so that's why I'm asking.

    I ran the t1 (2.5g 1 test, 2.5g of 4AD) for my first cycle, stacked with some 1,4 diol orally. It worked fine for me with 4 squirts a day. I think your stack would actually work much better with doubling the 1Test. I like 1Test , I don't get lathargy from it and I do get decent lean gains. Post your progress because I am wanting to give the mohn a go, hopefully I can get some from designersupps when its back on the site.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Jeff
    I ran the t1 (2.5g 1 test, 2.5g of 4AD) for my first cycle, stacked with some 1,4 diol orally. It worked fine for me with 4 squirts a day. I think your stack would actually work much better with doubling the 1Test. I like 1Test , I don't get lathargy from it and I do get decent lean gains. Post your progress because I am wanting to give the mohn a go, hopefully I can get some from designersupps when its back on the site.
    So you're saying to just get 2.5g 1-test and 2.5g 4-hydroxy testosterone and leave it at that (in addition to the m4ohn of course)? What's the logic behind that (not questioning your knowledge, just want to gain some myself?

  7. The tabs will be 4mgs tabs (should have a score down the middle), 90 tabs per bottle and the price will be very good, Ill release exact pricing info when they are one week out, so hopefully next week.

  8. Would you guys recommend taking ECA along with the m4ohn and transdermal or should I lay off it for the 4-6 weeks I'm "on"?

  9. well i've been on the m4ohn and tgel for about 3 weeks now...almost out of the tgel...would it be ok when i run out of tgel to stay on the m4ohn for 2 more weeks alone or should i not do this? so far the gains have been a lil slower than expecting but i think i will notice more in the final week...will do an update when all is finished

  10. Should be no problem keeping up the M4OHN. When you update, include things like how your diet has been, whether you've been trying to cut, how your bodyfat has changed, whether you did cardio, etc. etc.
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