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    M1,4add + P-Mag... 10 week cycle & PCT Log!


    Whatsup everybody.... I've been researching a cycle involving m1,4add plus p-mag for months now, and the time has come to start it up. I am going to be starting it up sometime later in this week, depending on when im fully ready, and have achieved my ideal starting weight.

    Special thanks to escholar... your log greatly helped, and was a major source of info. Also, thanks to gymaddict20, who started his cycle about a week ago, again... great info deff helped me fine tune my plan a lot. Hope it goes great ill be watching closely.

    The Gear
    CEL M1,4add: 90/120/120/120/ 0/ 0
    CEL P-Mag: 0/ 0/ 50/ 75/ 75/ 75
    CEL Formestane:0/ 0/ 0/100/100/100

    Post Cycle Lineup
    Clomid:..............100/50/ 0/ 0/ 0/0/0
    Nolva:................20/40/20/20/10/0/0
    CEL Fromestane:..50/50/ 0/ 0/ 0/0/0
    iforce Reversitrol:. 0/ 0/ 0/ 3/ 2/2/1
    ZMA
    Jack3d
    Creatine Monohydrate
    Purple Wrath
    (never needed a cortisol agent... gonna play it by year)

    Support Supplements
    All of which will taken from 2 weeks prior to cycle, and 4 weeks after pct...
    Hawthorne Berry
    Fish Oils
    Milk Thistle
    Liver Care
    Saw Palmetto
    Multi-V
    Taurine

    The Routine
    Day 1: Shoulders/Abs
    Day 2: Quads/ Calves
    Day 3: Back/ Traps
    Day 4: Off
    Day 5: Chest/ Abs
    Day 6: Hammys/Traps/ Calves
    Day 7: Arms
    Day 8: Off
    Excersizes will be posted on daily updates

    Stats/Goals
    Current Size: 5'10" 183 lbs
    Goal: end up gaining 15 solid pounds after water weight has drained, and cycle is over.

    Current Weights on Big Lifts:
    Bench Press- 235x8 / 275x1..................Goal-255x8 / 315x1
    Squat- 335x8......................... .............Goal-385x8 / 405x anything
    Deadlift- 335x8 / 385x1......................... Goal-365x8/ 405x1
    DB Shoulder Press- 90s x6....................Goal- 100sx8


    Ill start updates within the week...
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    diet breakdown will be up tomorrow
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    Good luck bro. i hope you get the results your looking for. i start my cycle tomarrow.
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    Glad I could lend the helping hand. You are going to love this cycle. You may want to throw in LG's Receptor. It defn enhances the effects of the M14ADD and P-mag. I saw effects on day two lol. You need anything let me know.
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    looks good. how much did everything cost? lol it looks pretty costly 300?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymaddict20 View Post
    Glad I could lend the helping hand. You are going to love this cycle. You may want to throw in LG's Receptor. It defn enhances the effects of the M14ADD and P-mag. I saw effects on day two lol. You need anything let me know.
    Deff will look into that...thanks dude.


    As for the cost, about 30 for each bottle so 120 right there... support supps i stole from walmart lol... and the serms were another 50... found a great place to order real clomid and nolva. All other otc pct stuff Ill pick up as more money comes in. I was more concerned with getting the serms beforehand...
    then of course theres the protein, and fooood... but thats a given cost
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    great looking stack good luck with your goals
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    Ok so... My cycle begins tomorrow...finally! I am going to be taking 90mg of M1,4add spaced at:
    30mg- 10am
    30mg- Noon
    Workout- 1pm
    30mg-5pm

    I took 30mg tonight just minutes ago to kick start the cycle. I will post up my workout with weights and reps, as well as my diet tomorrow night.

    Unfortunatly I caught a stomach virus over the weekend and couldnt eat **** for 3 days... and needless to say I lost about 4 lbs. Im sure its not all muscle but its a ****ty way to start off. My reason for letting everyone know is bc my start weight is now at 180lbs.
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    subbed, good luck on the cycle man
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    subbed! I'm thinking about a M1,4 cycle soon myself, so I'll be following intently.
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    Subbed good luck. This will def put some size on u man.
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    DAY 1- Shoulders
    Dosage: 30mg at a time taken at 10am, 12pm, 4pm
    Weight: 180lbs (+0)


    Workout: 1pm (weights exclude all warmup sets)
    Seated DB Press: 80x8 80x8 85x6

    Seated Arnold Press: (dropsets for previous) 50x10 45x10

    Bent-Over Rear Flys: 25x10 30x8 35x8 45x6

    Upright Rows: 115x8 135x8 135x6

    Seated lateral Raises: 25x10 30x8 30x8

    Cable Front Raises (weight= # knotch on weightstack): 2x10 reps 3x8 3x8

    Comments: All in all, decent workout. Didn't feel much different except for the obvious placebo affect, but hey its day 1. Other then that I felt pretty good all day and deff noticed an increase in my thirst and somewhat in appetite. Can't wait for tomorrow... well at least going to the gym tomorrow lol.


    Diet
    All Nutritional Info that isnt printed I get from approximation from online sources. Id say about 90% accurate. Im only logging calories and protein intake, because Im not as concerned about fat/carbs, and I just dont feel like it lol. Im bulking and I generally eat semi-lean and healthy so Until i start noticing more bodyfat im gonna just wing it on fat.

    Meal 1: 1 Serving Vanilla Yogurt- 100 cals/ 8g protein
    1 Big Colossal Meal Bar- 400 cals/ 30g protein

    Meal 2: Beef Stew- 350 cals/ 20g protein
    Carrots/Mashed Potatoes- 200 cals/ 5g protein
    Vitamin Water- 100 cals/ 0 protein

    Preworkout Protein- 150 cals/ 25 protein
    -workout-
    Postworkout Protein- 150 cals/ 25 protein

    Meal 3: McDonalds Angus Deluxe- 750 cals/ 40g protein (dont usually get)
    Fries (Half serving)- 200 cals/ 5g protein
    Soda - 200 cals/ 0 protein

    Meal 4: Chocolate Milk- 170 cals/ 8g protein
    Tuna Salad- 220 cals/ 15g protein

    Meal 5: Corned Beef- 200 cals/ 15g protein (st. pattys day!)
    Potatos- 200 cals/ 10g protein
    Powerade- 100 cals/ 0 protein

    Meal 6: Peanut Butter Fluff Sandwich- 450 cals/ 15g protein
    1 Serving Vanilla Yogurt- 100 cals/ 8g protein

    Meal 7: ??? yet to come, aiming for a protein shake before I go to bed ~150/25g

    Day 1 Totals: ~4050 calories/ ~240g protein
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    Day 2- Quads/Calves
    Dosage: 30mg at 11am, 60mg at 3pm
    Weight: 180lbs (+0)

    Workout: 4pm
    Squat: 135x10, 275x8, 315x8, 335x6, 335x6

    Seated Calf Raises: 90x10, 115x8, 135x6

    Seated Squat Press: 200x10, 380x8, 470x4, 470x4

    Standing Calf Raises: 90x8, 90x8, 90x8

    Leg Extensions: 110x10, 130x8, 150x8

    Comments: Another decent workout, didnt hit any of my personal highs, weight wise, but deff solid. Starting to feel the pump and endurance increase in the gym. I've been going in tired, but half way through the workout I get a rush of quality energy and dont want to leave. Leaving today I felt like I could keep going for hours.

    Diet
    Didnt have time to record all my meals down, Had 2 tests today so the whole day (for once lol) wasnt revolving around workout time. Looking back though and from what I can calculate, I easily reached over 4k cals, with around 250 grams of protein. Im going to try to up my protein intake to around 300 starting tomorrow.

    Back workout tomorrow and im ****in exciteddddd
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    Day 3- Back/Traps
    Dosage: 30mg at 11am, 60mg at 1pm
    Weight: 180lbs (+0)

    Workout 2:30pm
    Weighted Wide Grip Pullups: 25lbsX10, 45x8, 45x8, 45x8

    Bent Over Rows: 135x10, 165x8, 185x6, 195x4

    BB Shrugs: 225x8, 225x8, 275x8, 275x8

    Seated Narrow Grip Cable Rows: 160x10, 190x8, 190x6

    Narrow Grip Cable Pulldowns: 140x10, 150x8, 150x8

    Comments: Excellent workout today, I started it off with 15 mins on the bike. that got me going fast, and the agressiveness came out immediately. I ended updoing another set of weighted pullups with a plate strapped on, I usually only do 3. Im kind of confused as to why im not gaining any weight, m1,4add or not im still taking in 4k+ calories a day... wtf. Whatever Ill just keep it going and the pounds will have to go up. No strength gains yet, and no sides either, besides a little trouble sleeping.
    My diet was a little larger then most days due to starting my day at 730 am and not going to bed until 5am... (early class, then work late at the bar)

    Diet
    Meal 1: Bagel w/Cream cheese- 500 cals/ 15g protein
    V8 V-fusion- 100 cals/ 0g protein

    Meal 2: Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein
    Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 14g protein
    Nutri-grain bar- 130 cals/ 2g protein

    Meal 3: Pork w/ bread, corn- 450 cals/ 20g protein

    Preworkout: Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein
    Energy powerbar- 220 cals/ 6g protein
    Banana- 100 cals/ 1g protein

    Posk Workout: Protein shake: 150 cals/ 25g protein

    Meal 4: Chicken Pot Pie- 370 cals/ 10g protein
    Pork Chop- 150 cals/ 20g protein
    Crackers: 250 cals/ 10g protein
    String Cheese- 100 cals/ 7g protein

    Meal 5: Pasta- 400 cals/15g protein
    Sauce/butter/cheese- 200 cals/5g protein
    Milk- 200 cals/ 15g protein
    Cookie- 150 cals/ 2g protein

    Meal 6: Slice of Pizza- 250cals/ 8g protein
    Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein
    Soda- 100 cals/ 0 protein

    Gatorade: (throughout day): 300 cals/ 0 protein


    Total: 4710 calories/ 250g protein

    can I please gain at least a pound? lol
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    before pics will be up tonight
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    Quote Originally Posted by justeat View Post
    before pics will be up tonight
    nice, good job so far man
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    Day 4- off
    worked all day today, diet was decent, again over 4k cals and 260 protein. I just took pics but I dont know how to get them up... anyone know how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justeat View Post
    Day 4- off
    worked all day today, diet was decent, again over 4k cals and 260 protein. I just took pics but I dont know how to get them up... anyone know how?
    goto advanced, and look for the lil paperclip, browse, upload and save
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    Ill put more up later... got to go to work
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    Day-5
    had to take the day off due to work, and needing to rest. Tomorrow is chest so im pretty pumped, ill be in the gym around 12, and will be uping my dose to 120mg, even though week 2 doesnt start till wednesday.

    Comments: The increase in thirst is unbeleivable. I literally cannot stop drinking, and the odd part is im deff only peeing out about half of what im drinking, but not gaining weight or bloating
    Aside for hunger, definite increase as well. As soon as im done stuffing my face, my fullness only last for a few mins and im ready to keep going, its great.

    Other sides: Balls are still good sized, I think its bc I dont take a dose after 5, so my natty test has a chance to rise all evening and night. I have been having a lot of trouble sleeping, and am only getting like 5-6 hours a night, even when I have the oppertunity to get more... it kind of sucks... Im thinking that may be inhibiting my weight gain as well.
    Im also noticing that im a lot more cranky, and quicker to anger, which is a normal for me while on cycle, but i think the lack of sleep is amplifying it. Funny story... Im in my dining hall at school earlier today and was making a cream cheese bagel. I cut it and started to spread the cream cheese on, but i happened to get a little on my finger. For some reason I snapped, spiked the bagel against the ground and walked out. I hope that doesnt happen again, even though its hilarious in retrospect.


    Update for day 6 will be up tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justeat View Post
    Day-5
    had to take the day off due to work, and needing to rest. Tomorrow is chest so im pretty pumped, ill be in the gym around 12, and will be uping my dose to 120mg, even though week 2 doesnt start till wednesday.

    Comments: The increase in thirst is unbeleivable. I literally cannot stop drinking, and the odd part is im deff only peeing out about half of what im drinking, but not gaining weight or bloating
    Aside for hunger, definite increase as well. As soon as im done stuffing my face, my fullness only last for a few mins and im ready to keep going, its great.

    Other sides: Balls are still good sized, I think its bc I dont take a dose after 5, so my natty test has a chance to rise all evening and night. I have been having a lot of trouble sleeping, and am only getting like 5-6 hours a night, even when I have the oppertunity to get more... it kind of sucks... Im thinking that may be inhibiting my weight gain as well.
    Im also noticing that im a lot more cranky, and quicker to anger, which is a normal for me while on cycle, but i think the lack of sleep is amplifying it. Funny story... Im in my dining hall at school earlier today and was making a cream cheese bagel. I cut it and started to spread the cream cheese on, but i happened to get a little on my finger. For some reason I snapped, spiked the bagel against the ground and walked out. I hope that doesnt happen again, even though its hilarious in retrospect.


    Update for day 6 will be up tomorrow.
    Lol that is funny. Throwing random temper tantrums r ok if only a bagel is the victim "die bagel die!"
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    it was most definitely the victim of that lol
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    well prepared cycle and diet log,

    questions:
    -Are you doing cardio? if yes how often and what type? (maybe i missed that part)

    -What bodytype are you? ecto, meso etc (tied to first question)

    -looks like your macros are counted in cals/pro. do you advocate any note worthy techniques in your diet, LIKE low carbing after 5pm or avoiding Fats/carbs in meals etc? just let it fall where they may?


    sorry for all the questions bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T H E O R E M View Post
    well prepared cycle and diet log,

    questions:
    -Are you doing cardio? if yes how often and what type? (maybe i missed that part)

    -What bodytype are you? ecto, meso etc (tied to first question)

    -looks like your macros are counted in cals/pro. do you advocate any note worthy techniques in your diet, LIKE low carbing after 5pm or avoiding Fats/carbs in meals etc? just let it fall where they may?


    sorry for all the questions bro.

    1) yes, I do cardio in the form of biking or elliptical for 15-20 mins before every workout.

    2) I am an ECTO. All my life ive been skinny as a bone... Used to run track and cross country. I started going to the gym during that time but didnt start gaining weight until I realized I needed to eat lol. I gained roughly 30 lbs so far (4 years) since I started taking it seriously. Im an ecto to the point where if I miss a meal I will loose a few lbs.

    3) As far as my diet, not much technique excpet eat as much as possible. I try to take in a significant amount of protein and carbs especially around my workouts, and upon waking, to stay anabolic. Fat isnt monitored as much, I just try to eat somwhat healthy and its working pretty well.
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    Day 6- Chest/Abs
    Dosage: 30mg@ 8am, 60mg@ 11am, 30mg@ 3pm
    Weight: 181lbs (+1 lb

    Workout: 12pm
    Bench Press: 135x10, 225x8, 225x8, 235x6

    Abs Superset: leg lifts x Crunches: 10x10x3

    Incline BB Press: 135x10, 155x8, 185x6, 205x4

    Decline Cable Flies (weight=# on rack): #3x10, #6x8, #6x8

    -Abs-

    Superset:
    Decline Press Machine: 180x10, 230x8, 230x7
    +
    Incline DB Flies: 35x8, 35x8, 35x8

    Comments: Pretty good workout today, didnt notice a strength increase, but had a nice pump. I finally gained a pound, so im content. Still thirsty and hungry as ever. Nuts doin good, no nipple problems, just cant wait for this to kick in full swing. Tomorrow is quads/calves, and Im curious to see how the deadlift is.

    Diet
    Meal 1: Vanilla Yogurt- 100 cals/8g protein
    Banana- 100/ 0g protein
    Goldfish- 150/ 5g protein
    Protein Shake- 150/ 25g protein

    Meal 2: Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 15g protein
    Bagel w/Creme Cheese- 500 cals/ 10g protein
    Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

    Post Workout Shake: 150 cals/ 25g protein

    Meal 3: Italian Sub Sandwich- 1000 cals/ 50g protein

    Meal 4: pasta- 600 cals/ 21g protein
    Butter/sauce/ cheese- 250 cals/ 5g protein

    Meal 5: Baked Chicken Breasts- 300 cals/ 40g protein
    Sweet Potato- 150 cals/ 5g protein
    Butter- 50 cals/ 0 protein

    Meal 6: bowl of cereal- 250 cals/ 10g protein
    Protein shake- 150 cals/25 protein

    Total: 4200 calories/270g protein

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    Day 7- Hamstrings/Calves/Traps
    Dosage: 30mg@ 930am, 60mg@ 12 noon, 30mg@ 3pm
    Weight: 182lbs. (+2 Total)

    Workout- 1pm
    Cardio- Bike 20 mins

    Deadlift: 135x10, 275x10, 315x8, 365x4, 365x2, 385x1

    Hack Squat Machine: 90x10, 180x8, 180x8, 230x6

    DB Shrugs: 90x10, 100x8, 100x8

    Standing Calf Raises: 90x8, 90x8, 90x8

    BB Lunges: 135x8, 135x8, 185x6

    Leg Curls: 90x8, 90x8, 90x8

    Comments: Today was by far the best day in the gym yet. I had an amazing pump and crazy energy it was brolic as hell. However, no strength gains yet, my deadlift is exactly what it was last week, which pisses me off bc I felt as if I should be doing 20 more lbs on everything. I also usually make weekly progress on my DL as long as I eat well all week, which I have. Needless to say im ready and waiting for the strength gains to come. Tomorrow starts week 2, but im still in the last day of my workout cycle- arms. Sides are non existant, in fact my crankyness seems to have worn off as Ive been sleeping better. No lethargy, no testicular atrophy, no estro problems. its all good.

    Diet
    Meal 1: 2 Bowls of Cereal- 300 cals/ 10g protein
    Banana- 100 cals/ 0 protein

    Meal 2: Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 14g protein
    Bagel W/Cream Cheese- 500 cals/ 10g protein
    V8 Vfusion- 150 cals/ 0 g protein
    Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

    -Workout-

    Post workout shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

    Meal 3: 2 Softshell Beef Tacos (not fast food)- 400 cals/ 25g protein
    gatorade- 200 cals/ 0 protein

    Meal 4: Pulled Pork Sandwich- 500 cals/ 40g protein
    Mashed Potatoes (home-made)- 400 cals/ 10g protein
    String Beans/Broccoli- 100 cals/ 3g protein

    Meal 5: Chicken Breast- 300 cals/ 40g protein
    Sweet Potato- 150 cals/ 5g protein
    Butter- 50 cals/ 0 protein


    Totals 3700 cals/ 205g protein... but im having an additional meal+ shake so hopefully end up at 4200/ 250
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    Quote Originally Posted by justeat View Post
    Diet
    Meal 1: Vanilla Yogurt- 100 cals/8g protein
    Banana- 100/ 0g protein
    Goldfish- 150/ 5g protein
    Protein Shake- 150/ 25g protein

    Meal 2: Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 15g protein
    Bagel w/Creme Cheese- 500 cals/ 10g protein
    Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

    Post Workout Shake: 150 cals/ 25g protein

    Meal 3: Italian Sub Sandwich- 1000 cals/ 50g protein

    Meal 4: pasta- 600 cals/ 21g protein
    Butter/sauce/ cheese- 250 cals/ 5g protein

    Meal 5: Baked Chicken Breasts- 300 cals/ 40g protein
    Sweet Potato- 150 cals/ 5g protein
    Butter- 50 cals/ 0 protein

    Meal 6: bowl of cereal- 250 cals/ 10g protein
    Protein shake- 150 cals/25 protein

    Total: 4200 calories/270g protein

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    Just some suggestions:

    - I would avoid processed carbs or simple sugars in the meal preceding a work out. You drastically reduce insulin sensitivity and as a result of this, your post workout drink (whey or whey+waxy maize etc) will a slower, less drastic impact on glycogen restoration and muscle cell synthesis.

    - Fewer protein shakes, more solid proteins. This if for a few reasons; first, our bodies have an incredibly difficult time absorbing nutrients from liquids (if I can find some studies I'll post them). Secondly, the amino acid profile of every meal is almost identical. Therefore your cells have too many of certain AA's and too few of other AA's to build proteins (and eventually multiply read/Anabolism!) with.
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    thanks for the info... dr j. im gonna try to prepare chicken to eat during the day instead of a shake
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    Week 2- (Day 1)- Arms
    Dosage: 30mg@ 11am, 60mg@ 2pm, 30mg@ 5pm
    weight: 183 (+3 lbs)

    Workout- 3pm
    Preacher Curls- 65x10, 95x8, 105x8, 115x5 (Including 15lb bar)

    Standing BB Curls- 40x10, 50x8, 50x8, 55x6

    Skull Crushers- 65x10, 95x8, 105x8, 115x7 (Including 15lb bar)

    Tricep Rope Pulldowns- #4x10, #5x8, #5x8, #6x6 (On the straight pulldown cable, not the double pully one, and weights are unknown)

    BB Reverse Curls- 80x8, 90x8, 80x8

    Dips (with weight strapped on)- 45x8, 45x8, 45x8

    Wrist Curls- 80x8, 80x8, 80x8

    Reverse Wrist Curls- 40x8, 50x8, 50x8

    Comments: Again, great workout. The pumps and aggression in the gym are getting stronger everyday. I finish a set an just pace back and forth bc I am so pumped up, like an animal. I am up three pounds total, and have been gaining a pound a day so im happy there... hope it keeps up at the pace for as long as possible. With all the crazy workouts, im surprised I havnt made any strength gains yet. I leave the gym in such a good mood, I forget Im doing the same weights as weeks before. Anyhow, I know they will come, and ill just enjoy the pumps for now.
    Sides: Not much, starting to notice a little testicular atrophy, not much though, and it could be in my head. No estro sides. THirst and hunger are still going nuts, thirst in particular.

    Im taking tomorrow off, then restarting my workout cycle with shoulders again. It sucks having an 8 day rotation, bc im finishing MY week one on the real week two. Ill try to distinguish the two in future posts so its not confusing.

    Diet
    Meal 1: V8 Vfusion- 100 cals/ 0g protein
    Vanilla Yogurt- 200 cals/ 20g protein
    Big Collasal 100 Bar- 350 cals/ 25g protein

    Meal 2: Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 14g protein
    Nature Valley Oat Bar- 130 cals/ 2g protein

    Meal 3: Chicken Fingers- 350 cals/ 30g protein
    Pasta- 200 cals/ 10g protein
    Cranberry juice- 150 cals/ 0g protein

    Preworkout: Powerbar- 220 cals/ 10g protein

    -Workout-

    Postworkout: Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

    Meal 4: Chicken Breast- 200 cals/ 35g protein
    Sweet Potato- 150 cals/ 5g protein
    V8 vFusion- 100 cals/ 0g protein

    Meal 5: Turkey- 250 cals/ 35g protein
    Mashed Potatoes- 250 cals/ 5g protein

    (went to the movies, saw shutter is., great movie)-Candy- 300 cals/ 0g protein

    Meal 6: Pasta- 500 cals/20g protein

    Meal 7: Chicken Pot Pie- 350 cals/ 10g protein

    Total: 4100 cals/ 245g protein

    decent eating day, only had one protein shake though, deff could have fit one in before bed -_-.

    Shoulders week 2 on saturday!
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/250421-trestobol-epi-6-a.html
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    Week 2- day 2.

    today was my day off, took in about 4k cals, about 250g protein. Weight is up another pound im up to 184lbs. thats 4 pounds total gain. Tomorrow is shoulders so im hoping for a good workout.


    sides: nipples seem a bit puffy, but im going to dose in some left over arimadex to see how it works, as im trying to hold off on the formestane
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    So far so good man!
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    Week 2- (Day 3)- Shoulders
    Dosage: 120mg M14,add
    Weight: 185 lbs (+5 lbs)

    Workout
    DB Shoulder Press: 80x8, 85x8, 85x6

    DB Arnold Press: 50x10, 50x8

    Bent Over Rear Flys: 25x10, 35x8, 40x8, 45x6

    Upright Rows: 95x10, 125x8, 135x8, 145x6

    Seated Lateral Raises: 25x10, 35x8, 30x8

    Cable Front Raises: #2x10, #3x8, #4x6, #2x8

    Comments: I started off with 15 mins on the bike, then jumped right into my workout. Stamina in the gym was great as usual, getting good pumps. No strength increase yet, although my increased endurance has led to me being able to increase weights in my middle rep range. For example, last week I did sets of 8/8/6 on db shoulder press, my weights were 80/80/85. This week i bumped my middle set to 85. Nothing too exciting, but a gain nonetheless.

    Sides: Lethargy is starting to kick in, but im holding off on dhea until its a problem. In the past a lot of my estrogen sides started to flare up once i dose in the dhea, so ill hold off. balls are doing ok, deff a little shrinkage, but im expecting it.

    Diet
    Didnt' log everything down, but got in the usual 4k cals/ 250g protein. Im going home for spring break so im excited to eat some real food, and lots of it. With the upcoming week full of plenty of good food, and approaching week 3 of the cycle, im sure ill be making some real gains. yeaaa


    plus, up 5 pounds!
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    week 2, day 4- off

    starting upping my cals even more now that im home, so hopefully ill kick into high gear from here on out. lethargy is deff here now, im sleeping like 9 hours a day then tired for all the rest of the day. It sucks, ill sit on the couch and then will have no desire to get up, and just get sleepy.... so im going to start taking 50mg of dhea a day...

    anyone have any input as to when i should be taking it?
    also...
    when (in the day) should i be taking the formestane?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justeat View Post
    week 2, day 4- off

    starting upping my cals even more now that im home, so hopefully ill kick into high gear from here on out. lethargy is deff here now, im sleeping like 9 hours a day then tired for all the rest of the day. It sucks, ill sit on the couch and then will have no desire to get up, and just get sleepy.... so im going to start taking 50mg of dhea a day...

    anyone have any input as to when i should be taking it?
    also...
    when (in the day) should i be taking the formestane?
    try to keep the dosesages 12 hours apart, on both items. this will keep consistant levels in your body
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    Quote Originally Posted by lyfespan View Post
    try to keep the dosesages 12 hours apart, on both items. this will keep consistant levels in your body
    thanks will do... im excited to use formestane i only hear good reviews
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/250421-trestobol-epi-6-a.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by justeat View Post
    thanks will do... im excited to use formestane i only hear good reviews
    rub that **** in on your shoulders and chest, and the tops of your feet
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    Question. Last time i ran m14add i started having depression/anxiety problems..... Have you noticed anything like this? etc... Or if not you has anyone?
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    I havnt been noticing anything along those lines. In past cycles, like on epi, i deff felt a little depression, but i waited it out and it ended once i came off pct.

    For M1,4add, The lethargy this compound causes might seem a bit depressing, with not wanting to move around, and always being tired. I could see how u might associate lethargy with depression, but either way once i started popping a dhea pill daily, i feel pretty damn normal... until the gym
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