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    im a 32 year old 6' 230# wrestler and i decided to do a two week cycle of m1t at 20 mgs a day for 15 days. so far i am rather unhappy with the results. i had heard so many great things about it and was looking forward to it. my diet is on track and my training is on track a s well. i have noticed decent pumps and good strength gains but my overall look hasnt changed much. i was always a hardgainer even when taking anabolics like d-ball and testosterone. i am taking higher power brand m1t. i ordered a batch from underground labs to see if perhaps its a matter of quality. i didnt notice too many sides or any that really bothered me. some nut shrinkage, lower back cramps and perhaps a little more acne although not alot.tales of 20 pound gains have evaded me. i may try a transdermal next like legal gears or make my own.then again i may just stick to real gear.thanks

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    Dude, it's only been 15 days. And during those 15 days you have experienced gains in strength, and noticable pumps. Sounds good to me. Since you have used aas's in the past, I would run your cycle for 4 weeks and add a 4-AD transdermal to the mix. The body comp is going to take some time. Although, there have been some non-responders to M-1T. My last cycle was 4 weeks, and I gained 14.5 pounds. After PCT I was at 7 pounds over my starting weight.
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    From what I can see, and from experience..the benefits of M1t come mainly in the form of increased strength....most lost a lot of what they gained on a cycle... I say take it for what its worth, a good strength enhancer...

    I would run it for 30 days if I were you, at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rngkng
    im a 32 year old 6' 230# wrestler and i decided to do a two week cycle of m1t at 20 mgs a day for 15 days. so far i am rather unhappy with the results. i had heard so many great things about it and was looking forward to it. my diet is on track and my training is on track a s well. i have noticed decent pumps and good strength gains but my overall look hasnt changed much. i was always a hardgainer even when taking anabolics like d-ball and testosterone. i am taking higher power brand m1t. i ordered a batch from underground labs to see if perhaps its a matter of quality. i didnt notice too many sides or any that really bothered me. some nut shrinkage, lower back cramps and perhaps a little more acne although not alot.tales of 20 pound gains have evaded me. i may try a transdermal next like legal gears or make my own.then again i may just stick to real gear.thanks
    Says alot!
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    I actually havent seen any strength gains on M1t until near the 2-week point. But I was gaining weight almost immediately. I have always stacked with 4ad though.
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    All strength for me also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longdog
    I actually havent seen any strength gains on M1t until near the 2-week point. But I was gaining weight almost immediately. I have always stacked with 4ad though.

    Well I only did it one time so far, and I believe we were on similar stacks at the same time....i was doing m1t/4ad for 30 days..of 10grams 4ad in t-gel..and 10mg/m1t

    I did gain weight also, and have actually kept most if not all of it...but strength dropped almost immediately after stopping the m1t

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    Very little strength for me but immediate and lasting LBM weight gain..guess I'm lucky. I typically top out at about 7 lbs of gain though.
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    ok, thats cool, thanks for the fast feedback, i will kick in another 2 weeks with underground labs m1t plus i will make some potent 4 ad transdermal with 10 grams of 4ad with the t gel. thanks alot.
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    bioman i agree with u , LBM for me too , everyone noticed at the gym so it had to be impressive.....but bearly any strenght, althou endurance went up
    first 2 weeks @1Omg...nothin
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    next 2 weeks 2Omg...thats when i noticed the LBM difference....but thios time i stacked it with 4AD+ trans.....all from legalgear
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    you should eat more. if you are gaining nothing, not even fat, then you just aren't eating enough.

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    I too, noticed very little strength increases, but my weight shot up like crazy.
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    I gained tons but the sides were hell, felt like a slug all the time.
    I kept all my strength and lost only 3 lbs
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    Personally, I tried MT1 twice and for me it was useless.

    I felt so bad on it that my training suffered more than anything. When your lower back can't handle the weights in core movements like squats , DL's, and standing presses that you could when NOT on it, I don't see this as a valuable resource I want to try again. Alot report strength increases , I saw strenth decline while using M1T.

    I did try the M1, 4add and did make good weight gains, though most was water as they reported it would be, but at the end , the body comp was better than at the start of the cycle. But even so, it wasn't that drastic that I couldn't have done the same without it. Workouts were great through the whole cycle with none of the sides hampering training as with MT1 .

    So far, the best thing for me has been T1 Pro ... gains were slower and not as much, but steady and I kept them. This works for me and is where my PH dollors will go from now on.

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    I'll say.. my strength was insane on m-1-t (no other compounds) and it seems to have remained fairly constant almost two months after.

    I used it as a cutter and I was severaly below maintenance calories (1000 below). Initially my weight shot up about 15lbs in the first two weeks. It was at that time I actually switched to CKD diet and a bunch of water dropped out of my system which put me back down roughly 6lbs.

    Cramping wasn't too bad at all. Sure, I felt it but nothing unberable. I was lethargic but again.. nothing unbearable. I work 12-15 hours days so it was difficult to tell what was causing the tiredness

    I'd say my strength was up about 20-30% on most lifts, most noteably were my dips. When I started I was 306 and was repping 4 -6 reps. By the time I was finished I had added a 35lb Db and was getting 8-12 (depending where in my workout I did dips).

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    just to keep this going about why i am unhappy with m1t, can anyone tell me why alot of people including myself get the flu, or flu like symptoms? i feel like crap and i hardly ever get sick.sore throat, snezzing, this sucks, i barely feel like training!
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    yea, strength increases but no bodygt gains. did 2and 1/2 weeks at 15 mg ed. i think one needs 2o mg for 3-4 weeks of this ****.
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    I didnt get good str gains till week2,and week3 was even better,i wasnt bulking but i lost 2 waist sizes,and kept my starting body weight(which was great)gained good lean muscle and str is still holding good.Short cycles dont work well for me i ran it 5 weeks at 10mg.Next cycle id like to run it even longer.
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    Has anyone used M1T to jumpstart a TD 1-T/4AD cycle? If so, how did it work?

    Has anyone finished a TD 1=T/4AD cycle with M1T...how did it work?
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